Thursday, May 26, 2005

Lies, Damm Lies and WhatReallyHappened

Spreading disinformation is lot like herding sheep. And the CIA/NSA have used classic sheep herding techniques to establish their disinfo outlets. Here's how.

I don't know if you ever did any actual sheep work, but it's really straightforward. Approach some sheep in a field and put them under a little pressure. They begin to move away.

Come a bit closer. Now they're looking left and right for an exit. Come closer still. Now they're desperate for a way out. That's when you have a friend open a gate. And lo and behold, the relieved sheep flow out through the open gate like a river seeking lower ground. You can herd them from field to field -and they will always move in the direction which eases the pressure. Get it?

The information managers use the same technique. First -clamp down the media so there is no outlet for the truth. That's how you create the field around the sheep. Now they are boxed in. Then put them under a little presure -like say... 9/11. Now, you got them looking for an outlet. An outlet which eases the pressure. Any outlet.

So you provide one. And hey presto, They head straight for it.

We all feel the need for some media outlet to reflect our world view. It's a need which has been ruthlessly exploited to create many faux news outlets. One distinguishing characteristic is that they tell us what we want to hear -and then some. They rant. They rave. It's called emotional release. Or it's called -letting the peasants blow off some steam. And it's relatively harmless in political terms. Especially when the little venting of truth is mixed liberally with plenty of confusing disinformation.

As an investigator, I know this. So I wait. And I have. Waited. Waited until they discredit themselves. Which whoever is behind WhatReallyHappened has just done.


Many know I have written extensively about so-called 'Saddam before. Back when he was 'captured': Saddamplicity. Then recently I wrote new articles about the fake 'Saddam'.

The first: Liar Liar, Saddam's Pants on Fire on Friday, May 20, 2005; and the second: Crazy Saddam to Dismiss Lawyers -Prediction on Monday, May 23, 2005.

The very next day, May 24th -Michael Rivero at WhatReallyHappened claimed that by sheer coincidence: "earlier today a reader sent me the following image." You'll never guess? It was an image of Saddam. I knew then, that WhatReallyHappened were about to provide the disinfo crew response to what I had just written.

And they blew it.

First, to bolster his street cred, Rivero claimed to be having entirely coincidental new doubts about Saddam because a 'reader' had just emailed him two photos showing 'New Saddam's' teeth were uneven -whereas 'Old Saddam's' teeth were perfect. [Pic] Then later that day he reveals the true reason for raising the issue with an update to say that more research has 'discovered' another photo showing that 'New 'Saddam's' teeth are perfect after all. [Pic] So they must be the same guy. Voila! [Article]

Now I'd like to draw your attention to something. Nowhere. Not Ever. Not once, even, have I ever referred to 'Saddam's teeth. Go check. From the article published hours after they supposedly caught him, I wrote about half a dozen, and I never mention the teeth once. Never.

There's a good reason why. I already knew the teeth were the official red herring planted to confuse the issue. The photos seeming to show uneven teeth were digitally degraded to look that way.

Let me make this very clear: U.S. Psyops altered a few of the military-supplied photos of 'Saddam' so that this disinfo crew could use that later to confuse the doubters. Plenty of other photos would show the teeth are nice and even. So it was a no-risk red herring. Perfect.

I knew this from way back. My suspicions were confirmed when Joe Vialls, on July, 3rd, 2004 made a big deal of one of the digitally altered teeth photos: Here. The reason that helped confirm my thoughts, is because I had long before figured out, like a lot of others -that Vialls is pretty clumsy disinfo.

(By the way, like WhatReallyHappened, Vialls is a relentless anti-Zionist ranter. It plays well at the emotional level. But, that's something else they have in common -besides Saddam's teeth and their common employer.)

Saddam's teeth are a run-of-the-mill misdirection gambit. There are plenty of legitimate, substantial questions about 'Saddam' that don't involve teeth. I have covered them all. WhatReallyHappened ignores them all and promotes the misdirection psyop instead.

The same techniques of planted red herrings, and ignored real evidence have been used in the 9/11 coverup, so technical 9/11 analysts should take note.

(See: 'The 9/11 Minority Report' Why the 9/11 Movement was created by, and is fostered by the very people who carried out the attacks --by Fintan Dunne)

I'm not even going to warble on about the 'Peak Oil' rubbish that Rivero has been pushing for over a year. That's another story again. I'm not going to even bother discrediting Rivero further -he's doing a great job himself.

Rivero is just the tip of the iceberg. They have a frikkin' alt-media empire of 'alternative' websites and broadcast outlets. It's the kind of vast disinfo effort befitting the coverup of the murder of over 3,000 people and the subsequent slaughter of 100,000+ Iraqis. And so the disinfo show rolls on at all political levels, left, right and center. It's infotainment for bewildered sheep. And they got all the gates covered. Every shade of political and media opinion. Like a demented version of niche marketing.

But, you know that. Which is why you are here.

Let's give the last word to Rivero. He's good at digging holes:
"I have to admit, I was very sceptical when some of our readers expressed doubt that that was the real Saddam pulled out of that hole in Iraq. In these cynical times, one must be careful about false information planted in the path of citizen investigators trying to find the truth, so I was cautious." [Source]
See Also:
Liar Liar, Saddam's Pants on Fire
Crazy Saddam to Dismiss Lawyers -Prediction
Saddamplicity

26 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The teeth issue is interesting as they were shown to the world on the staged pre-trial corporate news extravaganza. They definitely are as crooked as an old picket fence (I recorded the video). Of course the whatreallyhappened have chosen a choice frame where they don't look too bad. What I haven't been able to track down is a good photo of the real Saddam's pearly whites. Interestingly you can also find this fake Saddam in some earlier photos too. So he's been around for a while. But that should be no surprise as this whole disinfo campaign has been in the planning for at least as long as the International Herald Tribune have had that interesting logo on page one. Talking about the IHT, check out the time on the clock. 6-11. Then check out the new Doctor Who episode Aliens in London. What is the time on Big Ben when its hit? It appears to be 10:58 but in fact the image is back to front so the clock really is showing 2:02. Reverse Symbolism perhaps? Guess what time the next scene shows. 6-11.

Back to the topic, whatreallyhappened is a disinfo site that is certain but the teeth issue is not so cut and dried. I subscribe more to the theory that the thugs employed to run the psyops are just morones.

5:54 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While on the topic of inferior olives. Has anyone really spent much time thinking about what the NWO really is?

It is not as Mr. Jones and co would have you believe. It is in fact a natural evolution of the planet driven by the basic law of nature which is self preservation.

Jeff Rense in his interview with Alex Jones on GCN recently was mulling over the question of why these guys who will inherit the Earth appear to be doing evrything to destroy it? Well what is the dominant organism on the planet? It is not man, it is the corporation. And the Earth is only big enough for one to survive.

At the present time consumption, waste and contamination is good in the view of each corporate empire, if it gives it a competitive advantage in the survival game.

When we reach the time when just one corporation controls the planet, the rules of the game will change completely but the motivating force will be the same, self preservation. Commerce that doesn't pass through the mega corp will be outlawed, consevation of rescourses and elimination of waste will be paramount even if that means elimination of most of us.

The infrastucture for this new paradigm is being installed now and the top gangsters are just jockeying for position. The NWO is unstopable, it is a law of nature, the real issue is this the way we want it to come about?

6:28 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan, I don't know a thing about teeth, either. I did mention them a while back. I don't know if Saddam has a pair of fake chompers or if they were digitally altered. All I know is the government lies--all the time. I don't doubt Saddam is drinking Margarittas in Uganda in a posh villa while his double sweats it out in Camp Cropper. I don't doubt it and I don't believe anything, except this: the government lies, it kills people, it pulls the proverbial wool over the eyes of the somnolent public. Did the government here in the United States create a phony nine eleven movement? I don't doubt it. In fact, it seems altogether likey--very likely. I don't trust anybody and haven't since I was followed around by state police working for COINTELPRO in 1970. See, I was an antiwar activist. I was run out of town (cops pulling you over everytime you appear in public has a tendency to make you run. even with the long arm of the law--or breaking the law, constitutional that is). Anyway, I am certain things are not what they seem. Never are. I don't know if Rivero is a post-COINTELPRO op or just a guy like me fed up with all this bullshit. I don't know him. I have some problems with aspects to his site but then I have problems with a lot of things. I wouldn't doubt seemingly good people work for Bush on a freelance basis. I don't bout Saddam's teeth were digitally manipulated. Hell, Saddam is a CIA manipulation. LSD was a CIA manipulation. That said, I hold to ideas--albeit paranoid--that seem right to me: you can't trust the government, sociopaths rise to the top like fresh feces oozing gas bubbles in the social cesspool on a wam June afternoon. I don't even trust to motivations of the mayor of Bumfuck, New Mexico, where I live, or the city council, or the state gov, my "representatives," senators, or the guy running a campaign as street sweeper. I don't know if it's about Saddam's teeth or not. I think Saddam is safe somewhere. As it works, the Saddams of this world are safe.

1:08 am  
Blogger Unknown said...

Wow, Thanks for the post, Fintan, and thanks to the other commenters.

I've got thoughts spinning around, and I should probably wait to get some clarity before commenting, but what the heck.

I find myself going back to the framework that you proposed, Fintan, along the lines that the events of 911 would have been years in planning, and would encompass a signficant number of years of what would ensue afterward.

Rather than focus on Saddam, I find it much more curious to focus on Bush. I tend to believe that he's much less of a initiator of anything: rather he is a useful puppet, perhaps as idiotic as he seems at times. For example, the idea that Bush, or Rove, or even Cheney, or even the so-called NEO Cons, are where the engine of the machine is located is not a thought I agree with. I think anyone who has examined the items that look like bedrock facts has to see major dudes and dudettes behind the curtain.... I'm referring to facts such as:

1) planted explosives in the WTC with requisite control systems

2) Pentagon Small Entry Hole and hardly any plane wreckage

3) Clear coverup with delay of 911 Commission followed by clear 911 Commision obfuscation

4) Massive internal FBI clamp down of letting the so called "terrorist hijackers", preventing them from being arrested prior to when they would be needed.

5) British and US governments working in Lock Step together

6) Sibel Edmonds "parallel path" whistleblowing of massive corruption

I'm sure I'm leaving stuff out from the above list....

(Here's one thought, pretty much beside all the other points I'm commenting about: I agree that preferential treatment was given to Saudi Royals to exit the US after 911. However, given that there's no way that they would all have been needed in the US as part of the operation, why, if the Saudi's where in on 911 in a major way, or had straight forward foreknownledge, would they even put themselves in a vulerable position of needing to fly out in a hurry.)

Although I find the so called Iraq war repugnant, crimminal, etc, and I accept as true about the absolutely unfathomable effect of DU, I somehow don't have much interest in trying the understand the details of the psyops / disinfo in Iraq, and in particular when Saddam. However, I do respect that looking into items such as your post does may expose disinfo agents.

It seems to me that all of debate / search for truth using the internet as a medium at times provides a mirror for each of us to look at ourselves and search our souls for what we stand for, and why we bother with any of this.

Not to drone on and on, let me get to my major point. It seems to me that rather than looking at so many details of what situations are psyops and who are the good or not-so-good guys, if there are any, there are two key questions that to ask:

1) Is it futile to resist the power behind actions on the world stage?

2) If it's not futile (to resist), is there a way that we should be relying on each other for knowledge and coordinated action that would provide a plan for being a true force for stemming and turning the tide.

I welcome anyone's thoughts, and I think I'm beginning to lose hope that the answer to the 1st quesiton, "Is it Futile" is no.

2:54 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I haven't really seen many pictures beside the ones listed here. Put the teeth aside for a moment. What about othere anomolies? I see an age spot over old Saddams left eye, I also see one near his left lower lip, Have these been dealt with? All the new Saddam pics I've seen have these areas obscured by the beard, or the eyebrow which also seem quite different from old Saddam...are there any more new Saddam pics that might show these areas better?

4:27 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re. 1) Is it futile to resist the power behind actions on the world stage?

Nimmo stated it best "sociopaths rise to the top like fresh feces oozing gas bubbles in the social cesspool on a warm June afternoon."

But the real question is, resist what? If you take the official alternative media mantra "fight the New World Order" then yes it is futile to resist. Without understanding what NWO really means, how can you fight it and what are you fighting for? More interestingly, even the most vocal cardboard cutouts who are promoting the NWO don't even themselves seem to understand the concept. So what are they really promoting?

It would seem the NWO refers to the final state of the world once the market forces enabled by commerce run their full course. It is the inevitable end game of the capitalist system (the ultimate evolution of commerce).

The primary motivating force for any organism is survival. Commerce has given birth to a new breed of organism on the planet called the corporation. Like competing mold spots on a block of cheese, survial requires elimination of the competition through any means possible such as maximum depletion of resources, to stave the competition, even the use of contamination and toxins to its own detriment if it results in a competitive advantage.

These are exactly the strategies we are observing today. These monsters are bigger than any individual or group of individuals, even those who may think they're in control are not in control. These are mega monsters that have evolved and are acting completely rationally, adhering to the fundamental motivating force for all organisms, survival. And when we reach the time when only one of these beasts survives, that state of evolution is the so called NWO.

The real questions should then be.

Is this an inevitable evolution of the planet? ie. Are there any alternatives to this given that the simple concept of commerce and the motivating force, survival, is what has given rise to this super organism (the corporation)?

Is this a desirable evolution of the planet?

Are there any alternatives?
If so, is it at all possible to implement them at this point in time?

If not then we better make sure that sociopaths bringing us into the age of the NWO aren't going to be the ones controlling the beast or else we will soon be experiencing the true meaning of "Down Sizing".

6:41 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan in general I'm an avid support of breakfornews but when people start accsuing others of being COINTELPRO I am catapulted back to my days on a school playground.

Let me keep it simple. I don't read at whatreallyhappened much though I know of the sites content.

If you think Mike R is working for the government prove it or shut up. I'm so sick of hearing peolle accusing him or her of working for the NME! Put your money where your mouth is and actually PROVE IT! back it up with hard evidence otherwise your just undermining yourself and breakfornews with childish school yard bater.


Indy

11:44 am  
Blogger FintanDunne said...

Let me keep it simple too, Indy.

That is not Saddam. We have lots of evidence it's not Saddam (see: Saddamplicity

Rivero pretends that a weak argument based on 'teeth'is the only evidence.

This 'teeth' issue is a deliberate red herring, a dead-end diversion.

Another red herring was the so-called controversy over the 'ripe or unripe' dates in another photo.

These issues are designed to give fake sites something to talk about -without actually questioning anything important.

Mike Rivero also pushes the discredited 'Peak Oil' line. But that could be just because he is misinformed. Lots of people have been on that issue.

But this Saddam's teeth stuff is way beyong misinformed. It's active disinformation to continue the Saddam fairytale.

Why?

BecCause having the general public people believe it's really Saddam is a goddam important part of the public relations support base for the occupation of Iraq.

They could care less if people think Osama is dead. That's a loss leader.

But they have a full truth suppression operation going on the Saddam issue.

And judging by what he just published, Rivero is part of that operation.

That's it.

3:31 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan I appreciate your points but far too often I see people calling each other COINTELPRO, Government front operations,etc,etc and really it only divides. Perhaps Mike is just an idiot? surely raising him to the level of COINTELPRO is not only unsupported by any evidence its also a compliment in many ways. Sure he could be COINTELPRO but then so could you. I could make the argument that by flaming another in the so called independent press you are using the oil's divide and conquer technique, a classic method of fragmenting and weakening a movement (Much like the use of LCD on the masses during the 60's only less pleasant for the lies of me:0) ......Do I believe that? absolutely not but if a person, lets say Mike R for instance, was to suggest you were I would ask him to prove it as I would anyone who makes such a serious accusation. And on the Peak Oil issue I don't think either the Peak Oil supporters or the Peak Oil scam supporters can conclusively say which is right. I've exhaustively studied both sides of the story and find compelling evidence on both sides but it seems to be a fad at the moment to despise and debunk all Peak Oil believers. You only after to look at a few Oil maps and compare them to current western conquests to see that if Oil is in such rich supply and flowing like water then why the need to secure the remaining oil reserves in the middle east? The argument that its all about boosting oil companies profits is quite short sighted. Oil is not a fashion item, it doesn't go out of fashion, it is a staple requirement of the human species, Oil companies don't need to hike profits or fake an Oil scam. Its quite short sighted to suggest its a scam and here is why.


If the Oil companies are faking it then they are actually promoting and coercing industries to develop alternative fuels, potentially a fake Oil scam could cause a new industry to be born which could one day make the need for Petroleum defunct, thus severely undermining the OIL industry, why do this? for a short lived profit hike of an industry that is already rich beyond imagination? - That makes no sense whatsoever. Running the risk of indirectly creating viable alternatives that could side line the need for Oil forever? man oh man this is a short sighted view and anyone with an understanding of business should know better. Furthermore what happens when this so called Scam is revealed? nobody trusts the Oil companies again, further ruining their business and their finances.


.....But ok it could perhaps be a scam but I have yet to see any compelling evidence for it. Talk of sand tar reserves and oil refineries closing down is perhaps the weakest case I have seen to support the idea that Oil is plentiful, Research Sand tar oil and you soon realize why no one wants it, it costs a fortune to get it and its not all that good quality. One or two Oil spots close down and everyone's like 'Look! there's so much their closing down Oil refineries!'

Undoubtedly their is a few bucks to be made from informing the public about Peak Oil, a dieing industry on its last legs is gonna squeeze what little it has left, that's business. But to suggest the whole thing is a scam is naive.


Still perhaps it is a scam, I reserve complete judgement but do see peak oil as a plausible theory, far more plausible and better evidenced at this stage than the Peak Oil scam theory which is wrought with poor evidence and sensationalistic type fad followers who simple support it coz their 911 truth seeking buddies do too! -But not all of us. Whether people accept it or not Oil is valuable enough to western elites to motivate them to wage wars killing hundreds of thousands of people and start a never ending war in the middle east which, shock horror! just happens to be the home of the largest remaining Oil reserves. Who'd of thought?


But back to my main point it would be great for all of us if we could sniff out the Gov agents amongst us so do it, prove it. So far no one as offered a shred of evidence to do so. Your an investigative outlet and a good one at that, put your money where your mouth is and prove that Mike R is an inside man. I'd be the first to offer you my praise.


:0)

Indy

6:45 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My God Indy, don't realize the key to real profits, as any economist will tell you, is the ability to control supply. Works just was well in the oil business as it does in the narcotics business (or the banking business for that matter).

When the oil supply is slashed the oil economies will crash but wealth is never destroyed, it merely changes hands. Remember that the central banks of the world are privately owned. It is a win win for the super rich elites.

By the way what is the only real alternative to oil for energy right now? Nuclear! And who profits from that? The same cartel of super rich elites.

But this debate is a bit of a distraction. The real issue right now should be these new global biometric ID cards being issued to all the slaves.

4:50 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think it is utterly necessary to discuss who might or might not be disinfo spooks. The psyops is so much more sophisticated than the vast majority of people have any idea.

It takes a very sophisticated analysis to pick the raisins of truth among the nuggets of bullshit (this obviously makes the raisins unappealing) at such sites as Rense and From the Wilderness.

On the other hand there are other CIA sites that are almost totally truthful. Perhaps their purpose is to scope out how many people have caught on and perhaps to identify their IP addresses.

I'm afraid we've all fallen through the Looking Glass. Surety is a scarce commodity.

2:30 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Fintan for your article exposing Mike R. I have been a reader of his sight for a few years and have suspected that his sight mixes disinformation in with some truth. The most blatant of his lies are the promotion of hate and violence.Revero tells his reader to act out of rage to bring down the government. This sounds a lot like an agent of cointelpro to me. Rivero continually tries to isolate his readers as internally powerless without spirit or being part of a larger plan. Anyone proposing to represent the truth with fear and violence is clearly not looking for truth. Look at what the wrh yahoo group had to say about your post even they knew he was busted. Another lie that Mike supports is that the plane that hit the pentagon shattered like a Christmas tree ornament and that is the reason it left no recognizable debris. That idea goes against all scientific and historical facts about plane crashes. No one has yet to mentioned that cloakanddagger was also peddling the crooked teeth of Saddam and now their site has been pulled faster than you could say wtc 7. Thankyou for the great interviews with Kaminsky and Levy and your efforts to heal this plan

9:27 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And just what is Ruppert's agenda, cranewalker?

3:42 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was drawn to this site purely to hear the Kaminski interview. Fintan Dunne did a nice job with that, so kudos. However, this attack on WRH and Michael Rivero is the EXACT kind of distraction and disinfo that Kaminski's latest piece (Agents Provacateur) seeks to expose. I believe that Fintan Dunne has Rivero and Ruppert confused. I am a regular reader (favorite site) of WRH and Rivero is NOT a big proponent of Peak oil. In trying to promote the truth, as Kaminski so eloquently espouses, you are going to make some mistakes. This whole "teeth" thing is and incredibly minute part of WRH's heart or soul. If Rivero is guilty or promoting any viewpoint TOO much it would be the "pet goat" moment on 9/11 or the "dancing Israli's". Peak Oil is WAY down the list. Mr. Dunne needs to do some homework.

8:13 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A quote from Rivero"Hate gets a bum rap. In our politically correct society we are taught that it's bad to hate at all, but I disagree. Hate can be a good thing. There are lots of things I hate and I am not ashamed to admit it. I hate liars. I hate thieves. I hate drug dealers. I hate corrupt politicians. I hate child molesters. These are hates that are good for the people to have. Maybe if more people allowed themselves to hate liars, thieves, druggies, and the corrupt, our nation wouldn't be in the mess it's in. Think about that for a while. Hate could actually save our country." The problem with hate is that it is often a projection of what we are unwilling to see in ourselves. I personally would not want to carry this kind of baggage.The poor people who believe this kind of philosophical view are likely to get themselves hurt or caged with this "good hate" Remember hate is what puts the dis ease in disease. The Dali Lama said" We must internally and externally disarm ourselves. Hate will never put an end to corruption, it will only muddy the waters to where we can not see our own way.

9:22 pm  
Blogger FintanDunne said...

Fierce Dragon, wrote:

"WRH as a rule goes the opposite way to the corporate media. This is not what one expects from a disinfo operation."

Just a second. Going the opposite way to the corporate media is EXACTLY what a disinfo operation does.

We are talking a sophisticated CIA operation here. These people are not fucking stupid. (!!)??

How you tell disinfo sites is that they report the stuff that alternative media is going to be reporting anyway -but they steer clear of new revelations.

Of course once others have broken these stories, then they hop quickly on board -and cheer on with the usual emotional and way over the top language.

3:19 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Relax John. Chomsky, WRH, Vialls, Jones, Icke etc. are all part of the disinfo and FakeForNews is no different. Some nuggets of truth with a healthy dose of disinfo to keep things in disarray.

Genecide of the masses is right on the money!

2:49 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The CIA in the past has used Israel as a patsy to divert attention away from US government corruption. Wolfowitz and his cronies have been writing policy for Sharon not the reverse. Israel warned the US that the 911 attack was going to happen. While all government is organized crime, you have to wonder about a news site that hammers on one particular government. As if it has the real boogiman for those of you who do not believe in the Osama boogiman. Half of WRH news is devoted to blaming Israel as if they are responsible for our corrupt government. The new banner for WRH should be "By way of deception". Deceit and corruption know no national boundaries their allegiance is to money, external power and in the bigger picture to ignorance.

7:20 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes that may be true.But that is only a small part of the picture. I havent seen WRH post how much money the Saudis have spent to sway Washington. That is Bush holding hands with the Saudi leader isnt it. How about Pakistan wiring a hundred grand to Atta and why was Atta hanging out with Germans and Swedes before 911. Dont leave Sibel Edmonds out of your equation. She is saying that 911 was a multinational event involving drug laundering to finance political office. I think we also have to consider the military industrial complex and how much they have profited from 911, are they Jewish too? The Bin laudens have also profited from the Carlyle Co.and it weapon sales. Dont forget your history when it comes to the British and the travesty of human suffering they have brought and are bringing to the world. It is ALWAYS a mistake to demonize one group without seeing whats in your own head. We are all of the same blood and that blood is on all our hands!

5:33 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets look at what Indymedia has to say about Mike. "Clearly Michael Rivero has called into question his own integrity as a purveyor of truth with suspicious connections and prejudicial innuendo. It stands to reason that Michael Rivero's intentions for whatreallyhappened is not to promote truth but a contrarian political agenda - just as militant, manipulative, and deceitful as its opposition. While no one is suggesting that he US Government is without significant problems worth investigation, what must never be taken for granted is the benevolence of self-proclaimed watchdogs." http://www.sf.indymedia.org/news/2002/12/1549211.php Thats hot stuff isnt it?

12:44 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rivero, What Really Happened, Go off, Dandelion, Gordon Thomas are essentially all part of an inbred and incestuous network of Right Wing propagandists and disinformation artists.

They included not only the standard Hard Right outlets like Newsmax but also Christian Fascist moupieces like Dandelion.

Their political function and agenda in general is to act as a phony opposition or Trojan Horse media specifically targetted towards those people who question the official story. If you study the disinformation put out by these propagandists, you will see a similar pattern in that they question the official story or version of events--only to carefully spin the issue in a way which just so happens to reinforce their own Right Wing agendas and political campaigns.

In particular with respect to 9-11, most of the sites have tried to seize upon obvious holes and lies in the official story about 9-11 in order to direct and deflect blame AWAY from the Bush Regime and American State in general towards some foreign bogeyman or patsy.

The bottom line is that these pseudo-alternative media outlets set up by the Right Wing have the effect of being classic CIA style psyops operations. They question the official story, only to steer and focus attention away from the more fascistic political factions which support the American military-corporate complex onto a suitable "enemy" foreign or domestic.

add your comments

1:34 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this site had some perceptive moments with the concert sham but most of the stuff regarding WRH is counterproductive to meaningful debate...there is no doubt that 'fierce dragon' breathes the brilliant flame of truth here with their understanding, control and clarity...the best thing the webmaster can do is to take a long long long holiday and hand over the reins to a better dragon

2:25 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats right Fintan, you would have more clarity if you blamed everything on Mossad and tip-toed through the tulips of racism you know like that brilliant flame of truth did. The next gangster rap you do you could sample somthing from Benny and the jets. Because, if its not blaming Isreal how could it be a meaningful debate? Why question the creditability of a news sight that shifts the blame onto the real axis of evil? After your long break you can "hand over" I mean join in the circle jerk at WRH. Stop second guessing Rivero and strap on those reins of clarity that can only come from control.

7:29 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

George W. Bush has granted himself the power to declare anyone on earth -- including any U.S. citizen -- an "enemy combatant," for any reason he sees fit. He can render them up for torture, he can imprison them for life, he can even have them killed, all without charges, with no burden of proof, no standards of evidence, no legislative oversight, no appeal, no judicial process whatsoever except those that he himself deigns to construct, with whatever limitations he cares to impose. Nor can he ever be prosecuted for any order he issues, however criminal; in the new American system laid out by Bush's legal minions, the Commander is sacrosanct, beyond the reach of any law or constitution.

Fuck That.

Are you a boot licker or an ass kicker. God and Guns are the only hope now. Tyranny is Tyranny.

3:27 pm  
Blogger Post American said...

Either the USA will control the entire world, or the entire world will destroy the USA.

The United States is developing a nuclear plan to attack military bases in Iran. The U.S. nuclear strike against Iran would take place after a nuclear attack in Albuquerque, New Mexico. The new attack on the U.S. soil could provoke a large sector of the American public and encourage the Bush administration to launch an attack on Iran. Since an attack on the U.S. is, according to experts, almost inevitable, the Bush regime would likely be given the justification to attack Iran. Some believe that the Bush administration would not even seek congressional approval and launch the attack on the basis of alleged self-defense?

Iran’s nuclear ambitions have U.S. reviewing controversial options
http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050731/OPINION03/50729028&SearchID=73215834737233=
Which tells you right there and then that any attack on the US will NOT be by Iran, because Iran is too smart to hand the US the pretext for conquest that the US Government so clearly lusts after.

Iran warns U.S., Israel against attack
http://www.wpherald.com/storyview.php?StoryID=20050729-112558-3597r
"Washington is already drowning in the Iraqi river and the drowned cannot move from the river to the sea."

OCCUPIED BAGHDAD, New Iraq - Five U.S. soldiers were killed by roadside bombs in two separate incidents in Baghdad, the U.S. military said Sunday.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8749869/
PENTAGON PLAN CALLS FOR SCALE DOWN OF U.S. OCCUPATION TROOPS IN IRAQ TO 60,000 BY END OF '06...

OCCUPIED JERUSALEM - Israel will launch a massive ground operation if Palestinian militants fire on Israeli soldiers and settlers during next month's Gaza pullout.
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050731/D8BMF03G0.html
Why would Palestinians fire on Israelis while they are LEAVING? That would only provide Israel the excuse to call the whole thing off. Now, the SETTLERS certainly have a motive to fire on Israelis and frame the Palestinians.

Finger points to Israeli intelligence as al-Qaeda websites are wiped out
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1715166,00.html
Over the past fortnight Israeli intelligence agents have noticed something distinctly odd happening on the internet. One by one, Al-Qaeda’s affiliated websites have vanished until only a handful remain? Someone has cut the line of communication between the spiritual leaders of international terrorism and their supporters. Since 9/11 the websites have been the main links to disseminate propaganda and information.

Monday September 10, 2001 - Five hundred websites - many of them with an Arab or Muslim connection - crashed last Wednesday when an anti-terrorism taskforce raided InfoCom Corporation in Texas.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4253580,00.html
In addition, InfoCom is the registered owner of ".iq" - the internet country code for Iraq.

FBI Agents Raid Muslim-Owned Internet Company
Five days before 9-11.

FBI executes "unspecified search warrant" to shut down Arab Muslim web sites, denies racial bias
Four days before 9-11.

Guess who "persuaded" the FBI to shut down the Arab web sites just before 9-11 ?
September 6, 2001- (ACN) La Voz de Aztlan has learned that approximately 50 federal agents are still inside the business offices of an Internet Service Provider after an early morning raid yesterday. The InfoCom corporate building in Richardson, Texas was first surrounded and then evacuated in the early morning hours. The FBI has shut down servers that host many websites serving the refugee Palestinian community. At least one of the websites was for the purpose of charity. The website for the Holy Land Foundation raises funds in the United States to help countless Palestinians that have been adversely affected by Israel's racist apartheid policies. Other websites that have been shut down include those for the Muslim Students Association, the Islamic Society of North America, and for the Islamic Association for Palestine.
We can not sit back and allow the Zionists to gradually erode our sacred rights guaranteed by the greatest political document men has ever written and that is the United States Constitution. Presently most of the members of the U.S. Congress are in the pockets of extremely wealthy and powerful Zionist business interests. We must turn the tide and expose these Zionist lackeys before all Americans are enslaved and then it will be too late. We are already suffering the consequences of the ever tightening noose.

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information."
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html
-- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.

The Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html
1. The Israeli “movers” cheered the 9-11 attacks to celebrate the successful accomplishment of the greatest spy operation ever pulled off in history.
2. One of them, or an accomplice, then calls a 9-1-1 police dispatcher to report Palestinian bomb-makers in a white van headed for the Holland Tunnel.
3. Having thus pre-framed the Palestinians with this phone call, the Israeli bombers then head for the George Washington Bridge instead, where they will drop off their time-bomb van and escape with Urban Moving accomplices.
4. But the police react very wisely and proactively by closing off ALL bridges and tunnels instead of just the Holland Tunnel. This move inadvertently foils the Israelis’ misdirection play and leads to their own capture and 40 day torture.
5. To cover up this story, the U.S. Justice Department rounds up over 1000 Arabs for minor immigration violations and places them in New York area jails. The Israelis therefore become less conspicuous as the government and media can now claim that the Israelis were just immigration violators caught in the same dragnet as many other Arabs.
6. After several months, FBI and Justice Department “higher-ups” are able to gradually push aside the local FBI agents and free the Israelis quietly.

A former Navy lawyer who helped lead the military investigation of the 1967 Israeli attack on the USS Liberty that killed 34 American servicemen says former president Lyndon Johnson and his defense secretary, Robert McNamara, ordered that the inquiry conclude the incident was an Israel used unmarked planes and boats to attack the USS Liberty in order to blame the sinking on Egypt and trick the US into war on Israel's enemy.
That should sound familiar, since that was the motive behind the Lavon Affair and may have also been the motive behind the attack on USS Cole and 9-11. Meanwhile, I have had enough of Presidents and congresses more loyal to Israel than to America. It is time for them to go.

FBI seeks to probe senior Israeli diplomat in Pentagon spy case
According to accepted practice, Israeli civil servants have immunity and cannot be investigated by foreign countries about actions taken in their work capacity, and it appears that Israel would like this immunity applied in the current affair.

The Enemy Within
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1730.htm
AIPAC, the Neocons and the Mossad: A Study in Subversion and Treason

More evidence emerges that Rumsfeld's Pentagon is "running" Al Qaeda-affiliated terrorist organizations.
Relations between Washington and Tashkent finally boiled over after evidence that Pentagon special operations teams were involved in the Islamist revolt against President Islam Karimov's government in the town of Andijan on May 17. On July 29, Tashkent formally evicted the United States from its airbase at Karshi-Khanabad, also known as "K2." The Pentagon was given 180 days to evacuate all personnel, aircraft, and equipment from the base, which had been used by the United States since the Afghan war broke out following 911. The State Department was apparently blindsided by the abrupt Uzbek decision. It planned to send a diplomat to Tashkent on August 2 to negotiate the base's future. However, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld had already decided to scrap K2 after he secured continued basing rights in Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. The Uzbek media has been abuzz with revelations that Pentagon special operations teams secretly met in Afghanistan with Tohir Yoldashev and members of his Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU), a group the U.S. State Department considers a terrorist organization allied to "Al Qaeda." The meetings were reported to have occurred before and after the Andijan revolt, which was blamed on IMU forces. The US-IMU meetings in Afghanistan were also referenced in an article in Asia Times by India's former ambassador to Uzbekistan and Turkey, M. K. Bhadrakumar. The Uzbek government obviously believes the Pentagon has been dealing with terrorist groups and decided to deny the Americans a base from which they might be using to foment Islamist terrorist operations in Uzbekistan and in surrounding countries.

Uzbekistan Warned US: Evacuate K2 Base
http://www.zaman.com/?bl=international&alt=&hn=22428
The Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), which includes Russia and China, had demanded a timetable for the evacuation of the US military bases in Central Asia in the SCO Summit held at Kazakhstan at the beginning of the month. In response, US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld held a diplomatic tour that included SCO members Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan. ''We always think ahead. We'll be fine," he said on the subject of the base in Uzbekistan.

Donald Rumsfeld doesn't like long-term occupations. He's always made that clear. After U.S. forces took Baghdad, the Defense secretary had plans to reduce the U.S. presence in Iraq to 40,000 troops by the fall of 2003. Then the insurgency struck?
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8770418/site/newsweek/
Their account squares with a British memo leaked in mid-July. "Emerging U.S. plans assume that 14 out of 18 provinces could be handed over to Iraqi control by early 2006, allowing a reduction in overall [U.S. and Coalition forces] from 176,000 down to 66,000," says the Ministry of Defense memo. The Bush administration wants to pre-empt growing public pressure for withdrawal, which could give the insurgents a Vietnam-like strategic goal. Military planners, meanwhile, are deeply concerned about driving away Army careerists and recruits if current deployments are forced into 2007. If the U.S. Army has to do another rotation into Iraq in the fall of 2006 to keep force levels up to their current 138,000, it "goes off a cliff," says retired Gen. Barry McCaffrey.

Is America's War Winding Up?
http://www.antiwar.com/pat/?articleid=6812
Is America preparing to pull out of Iraq without victory?

I remember the arrogance that accompanied the "shock and awe" bombing campaign that kicked off the war in Iraq more than two years ago. The war was supposed to be quick and easy, a cakewalk. The enemy, we were told, would fold like a dinner napkin. And then, in the neoconservative fantasies of some of the crazier folks in the Bush crowd, the military would gear up for an invasion of Iran.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/25/opinion/25herbert.html?ex=1122868800&en=524b88719a8a2551&ei=5070&emc=eta1
"Messing up other countries," said Mr. Dommen, "doesn't make the world or America safer." There is still no indication that the Bush administration recognizes the utter folly of its war in Iraq, which has been like a constant spray of gasoline on the fire of global terrorism. What was required in the aftermath of Sept. 11 was an intense, laserlike focus by America and its allies on Al Qaeda-type terrorism. Instead, the Bush crowd saw its long dreamed of opportunity to impose its will on Iraq, which had nothing to do with the great tragedy of Sept. 11. Many thousands have paid a fearful price for that bit of ideological madness.

KARL ROVE and VARIOUS SPIES HE IS LINKED TO
Karl Rove's only full-time foreign-policy advisor is Michael Ledeen, a rabid anti-Arab, pro-Israel activist. The FBI is investigating Ledeen for procuring forged documents (shown here) on nonexistent WMD, which George Bush used to justify his war on Iraq. When Joseph Wilson exposed the farce, Rove helped "out" Wilson's CIA wife. Did Ledeen procure the documents for Rove, and how might he have done that? The story includes multinational stool pigeon Rocco Martino, Italian spy Francesco Pazienza, wanted CIA spy Robert Seldon Lady, and Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin, who's under charges of giving US secrets to Israel

The birth of the Shi'ite Empire
"Ledeen may say he wants the US to attack Iran, but when you are as corrupt as Michael Ledeen, words are meaningless. Watch what the neocons do; don't put too much faith in what they say. And keep in mind that when Ledeen was on Reagan's National Security Council his major responsibility was to supply US arms to Iran through Israel.

In a letter to Mr. Bush, the senators cited the disclosure on Thursday that Mr. Bolton had been interviewed by the State Department's inspector general in an investigation of intelligence failures related to Iraq, even though he told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in March that he had not been involved in any such inquiry.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/30/politics/30bolton.html?hp&ex=1122696000&en=9d594c0f61f6ec9e&ei=5094&partner=homepage
The State Department has admitted that, as Mr. Biden charged, Mr. Bolton had been interviewed in a previous inquiry into one particular intelligence failure on Iraq, the finding that Iraq had tried to buy raw uranium from Niger for a nuclear arms program. That finding turned out to be based on forged documents. Administration officials appeared shaken by the disclosure, and some worried openly that it might hurt Mr. Bolton's chances of a recess appointment, a tactic that a president is permitted use once Congress is in recess in August. The appointment would expire at the end of next year, however.

Third terror cell on loose
Funny how Britain didn't have all this "terror" until AFTER they announced plans to pull out of Iraq.

Israeli Security to Protect London's Underground September 21, 2004

Failed bomber called plot a 'demonstration'
The person who talked about the Italian interrogation, who declined to speak for attribution because the law bars such disclosures, said Hussain maintained that his group was not connected to Al Qaeda or to the bombers who died with 52 other people July 7 in London.

From Kings Cross to Armageddon?

http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1731.htm#001
The events of September 11th 2001 helped pave the way for the invasion of Afghanistan and that ultimately led to the current quagmire in Iraq and a whole raft of new security legislation. Right now we cannot say with any certainty where the events of July 7th are heading but something is definitely in the offing. At the time of writing, residents near Wright Patterson Air Force Base in the US report tremendous activity there, far more so than usual. Coupled with this we are informed that all leave has been cancelled at some US military bases and with the construction of a huge US military base in Israel (11) scheduled to be operational by September, something big is looming in the months ahead.

Bush plans 50th ranch trip in five years
http://usatoday.printthis.clickability.com/pt/cpt?action=cpt&title=USATODAY.com+-+Bush+plans+50th+ranch+trip+in+five+years&expire=&urlID=14993440&fb=Y&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fnews%2Fwashington%2F2005-07-29-bush-ranch_x.htm&partnerID=1660
White House Cock Sucker Scott McClellan said Bush also will be preparing for a busy September 11th, when he plans to deliver major addresses on the "war on terror"!

You know that "war on terror" our troops have been fighting for two years? Yeah, that's over.
Now, we're involved in a "global stuggle against violent extremism." (It just rolls off the tongue.) The White House has decided that the "war on terror" moniker that's been a catch phrase for so long just isn't cutting it anymore. "War," of course, implies death and destruction and flag-drapped coffins (and heaven knows, we don't want to think about those). Gen. Richard B. Myers, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he thinks that "war" implies that uniformed troops are the answer. (Wait? You mean they're not?!) And Steven J. Hadley, the national security advisor, told The Washington Post, "It's broader than [a war on terror.] It's a global struggle against extremism. We need to dispute both the gloomy vision and offer a positive alternative."

You Call This a War?
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1729.htm#001
What starts as a means eventually becomes an end in itself. What we thought was only a specific emergency measure turns out to be a whole way of life. Some very brainy people never catch on to this.

Pax Americana is over. Challenges from Vietnam and the Balkans to the Middle East and September 11 have revealed the limits of American supremacy. Will the United States learn to fade quietly, or will U.S. conservatives resist and thereby transform a gradual decline into a rapid and dangerous fall?
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1720.htm
President Bush’s options appear extremely limited, and there is little doubt that the United States will continue to decline as a decisive force in world affairs over the next decade. The real question is not whether U.S. hegemony is waning but whether the United States can devise a way to descend gracefully, with minimum damage to the world, and to itself.

Something Evil This Way Comes?
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a1731.htm
Were the recent bombings in London part of a covert operation intended to pave the way for a totalitarian state? No matter how outlandish this may sound, and despite what the mainstream media may say, there is considerable evidence that this may indeed be the case.

Exclusive: Secret Memo—Send to Be Tortured
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8769416/site/newsweek/
This memo appears to be the first that directly questions the legal premises of the Bush administration policy of "extraordinary rendition"—a secret program under which terror suspects are transferred to foreign countries that have been widely criticized for practicing torture.

World Not Set To Deal With Flu
Funny how this "bird flu" popped up just after scientists dug up samples of the 1918 Spanish Flu (which was a bullshit name since the disease actually first appeared on US military bases and spread to the rest of the world as US troops from those bases were deployed around the world).
Normal progress for a mutating illness is to mutate into a LESS lethal form, since lethal viruses kill their own hosts, where as viruses that do not make their hosts sick will survive and propagate.
The current Bird Flu virus may infect humans in close contact with the birds, but there is little or no secondary communicability. In other words, humans afflicted with Bird flu do not give the disease to other humans.
So, how do the "experts" know that Bird Flu will mutate into a lethal form that is human-to-human transmissible?

‘Treason doth never prosper/What’s the reason?
Why if prospers, none dare call it treason!’

3:29 pm  
Blogger Davin said...

Why is everyone looking for a 'perfect' source of information. Whatreallyhappened is imperfect like all sources, but it is a good source for news you would have to dig for.

If you are looking for one person to give you the truth then you are part of the problem.

And trying to tear down others for attempting to get closer to it doesn't help either. Debate the teeth sure, but declaring everyone who sees things different from you as a 'government mole' is just paranoid.

Think for yourself as the article states, and weight each article by Rivero (or any other) on its own merits.

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