9/11 - The True Pill
I've NEVER seen the like of the current propaganda campaign -now running full steam, ahead of the C-SPAN 2 broadcast by Prof. David Ray Griffin (The New Pearl Harbor) -this Saturday, May 7th at 2:30 PM EST.
As Fred Burks raved:
In his 80-minute lecture to a standing room audience of 400 at the University of Wisconsin, Prof. Griffin, one of the most respected theologians in the US, discusses his extensive research into the 9/11 cover-up.
But it is in Capital Times that we get to see what is really going on:Americans interpret the events of Sept. 11 in one of four ways, Griffin said:Of course, Group 4 are the really threatening, actual 9/11 skeptics.
• A first group accepts the official interpretation that Sept. 11 was a surprise attack by Islamic terrorists. It is easy for these people "to think of America's so-called War on Terror as a just war," Griffin said.
• A second group accepts the official line but thinks Sept. 11 has been used opportunistically by the Bush administration to extend the American empire. People who hold this view often believe that America's response to Sept. 11, which has led to hundreds of thousands of deaths, is far worse than the attacks themselves, he said.
• A third group believes the Bush administration knew the attacks were coming and let them happen. It shows the government as "deliberate and cold-blooded," advancing its imperial designs while hypocritically portraying itself as promoting a "culture of life," Griffin said.
• A fourth group believes that the government orchestrated the attacks. While no poll shows how many Americans believe this, polls in Canada and Germany have found as many as 20 percent of those populations do, Griffin said.
They are the ones who can think the sinfully unthinkable. Groups 1-3 believe any old rubbish(PeakOil, Bird Flu, GannonGate). Clearly, that fourth group are the big problem for the opinion massagers. The core of their 9/11 strategy has been to try ensure that groups 1 to 3 are as large as possible -and that group 4 is marginalized as much as possible.
They have constructed an artificial Bell Curve of internet-based 9/11 opinion distribution -with Group 4 at the "extreme" end of the curve. They will now proceed to argue the group 1 to 3 positions for years in the alternative (lol) sections of the mass media.
Thus replicating their internet tactic on the mass media audience.
They spent 2001 to 2004 getting people in place for this 2005-onwards phase. Along the way, a key aim was to contaminate Group 4 with enough "extreme" material to damage the REAL 9/11 skeptics. After all, if Group 4 are extremists, they must look like extremists.
C-Span is muesli for the left. Muesli is best spoonfed.Not the red pill or the blue pill. Just the true pill.
'The 9/11 Minority Report'
Why the 9/11 Movement was created
by, and is fostered by the very people
who carried out the attacks...
Audio by Fintan Dunne
May 7, 2005 [mp3]
LISTEN> [56K] [DSL]
posted by FintanDunne
at 2:55 pm
26 Comments:
I watched the Griffin address the other day after downloading it, and it was quite refreshing to see that some of the hard-core aspects of this "event" are finally being dealt with in a mainstream forum.
I consider it absolutely remarkable, however, that this relatively modest attempt to broaden the range of debate on this issue, is being discussed as if it is the most radical development in exposing the truth since the "event" took place over three and a half years ago.
9/11 was nothing less than the most outrageously transparent psyop ever perpetrated in the history of modern man. I was one of the ones who knew that something was terribly rotten in Denmark even before I watched the first tower fall on live tv. The fact that so many of the American people (or sheeple as they are so aptly described in many alternative circles) remain so woefully in the dark concerning this subject, is a tribute to the highly sophisticated mass mind-control apparatus known as the "news media."
One feels as if they were just informed that a bit of a crime has just has occurred, after returning home in the evening to find the wife and children dead after a demolition crew got the addresses mixed up.
And what to make of that cd cover - "COUP"? It came out shortly before the "attack". Is this a remarkable example of synchronicity or perhaps mental telepathy? I have the unsettling suspicion that something far more sinister was at work. God help us all if I am right.
I hope Fintan you won't be repeating those ideas of photoshoped pictures. There are too many collaborating video sources showing the exact scenes from different perspectives for that idea to be valid. In fact claims of post event photo editing distract actual 9/11 skeptics and destroy creditibility when such claims are proven false.
Anyway now that the voting charade is over for the major players, phase II of the WOT is no doubt about to start with avengeance. Lets hope we are much more responsive and resourceful in exposing the next event which I fear is almost upon us.
So you are going to hold your cards close to your chest on this one??? I watched the David Ray Griffin talk on C-SPAN2 last Saturday morning ... how can I say this delicately ... he was preaching to the choir! His points were valid and well known to the "movement" but, he required you to purchase his book for any "real" detail. If he wanted to convince an audience outside of the college, he needed a full graphic presentation, not just the "trust me", I'm a fucking certificate-carrying "man of God". The evangelical whack jobs use the same criteria of proof. I am not discounting the information, just the presentation.
Now, please make a follow up comment to the current hoopla between Mr. Jones and the Wing-Dings. I happen to lean on the side of the (gulp) Wing-Dings on this one. It is reality TV, now isn't it? Even if they are still promoting "white supremacist" propaganda ... at least they aren't charging folks for their opinion and making you feel cheated for having to shut them off! Ahh never mind, I'm getting soft, I return to my original impression ... fuck them and the 911 pamphlet they rode in on!
I'm looking forward to your analysis on Saturday, keep it real, keep it smart, and keep it free!
Peace
The reason that the Griffin thing is such a big deal is that it's on TeeVee. Simple perhaps, but he's reaching the crowd of people who don't use the internet. I know it can be hard to believe there still are people like that. Mostly it's the older generation, 60+.
Consider that the 9-11 Truth movement has kept moving by slowly adding members to the choir. Well the choir is getting expanded even more, so it's a good thing. It's up to the "old hands" out there to maximize this opportunity. The more the merrier.
I also watched (and taped) the Griffin presentation speech on C-Span last weekend when it was on in the morning.
Yes it was "mild" for those of us who are already aware of the truth via Internet sites like this one, but let's remember that MOST people only use the 'net for mainstream sites like their yahoo email and maybe a sports score or two from CNN once in a while. Sad to say but the vast majority of people even who ARE "online" never stray outside of mainstream media INTERNET sources too!
So just imagine the impact on such a typical sheeple person if they're just flipping around the cable channels and happen upon Griffin's speech -- that's the difference that having it on TV will make. And it's a big step honestly... kudos to C-Span for having the cajones to put it on.
Is it 5pm EST yet? Its already the 8th here in Taiwan and I'm curious what Fintan has to say before the shit hits the fan today. By my caculations today is going to be more than just another Mother's day.
By the way, everyone really should check out the Alien Invasion episode of Doctor Who. Notice that time on Big Ben is 2:02 back to front and then in a later scene it shows 6:11. The exact same time as the clock on the International Herald Tribune's logo (everyone should really check that logo out too). Just a coincidence I'm sure and nothing to do with reverse symbolism. That episode maybe more than just a parody and more like the first episode on the Lone Gunmen.
Where's that show, Fintan? Can we get some indictments? Does this truth pill have any side effects? Is it bitter? Will it stir up a frenzy of bickering and in-fighting? Why can't we all just get along???
Fintan gets to the core of the issue. Everyone should read Philip K. Dick's books ... he was the author of "The Minority Report". Intricate details are used to control and confuse the masses ... mistakes are the beacons of truth!
Haven't you figured it out yet? The "911 Commission Report" is the exact same fucking thing as the "911 Alternate Media Report". Don't let this fact bog you down, just understanding it is all you need to know.
See, feel, understand and you can be free in your mind ... phase one to total freedom! Breakfornews.com is the bomb! Wake up, damn it!
Why so much talk like give up and go home "your reaction has been planned ..." ?
Because: Resistance is NOT futile!
This is the time that when the real conspirators are most vunerable. The knee jerk circle the wagons, find someone to lynch and wave the flag, phase is over.
Give up and go home is exactly what we're meant to do. But what if we don't? Short of living under a rock almost everyone has heard something about the offical story being a lie and after the endless lies over the Iraq invasion/occupation many people are right now very receptive to the idea these guys will do anything for power including staging 911 and killing their own citizens.
Now is the time to take the best parts of the 911 investigation material and go mainstream. Collect documentaries, make compilations of the important parts and burn disks. There are DVD players in almost every living room. Put them to good use!
Who ever said that resistance is not futile? The minutia is where the truth is broken. Go ahead and buy, copy and share all the videos out there! Remember that you are being played ... your emotions are being played ... its a mine/mind field and like it or not, its just that simple!
All those videos will amount to shit and its that fucking simple if you can't understand the concept of social scripting. The real information is being given to you and you are unable to get past the garbage of your "Icons" ... fuck them all! When you get that ... you will be on the road to real freedom.
We can only hope that those who profit on confusion will rot in hell!
Peace
Hey you to relax a little. You underestimate what average person is capable of.
At the end of the day it is all about education. The PR (propaganda) is being delivered like a slick marketing campaign with various pied pipers ("gate keepers") employed to direct each demographic. Well that is all well and good but we're not a passive audience. Present the PR to an audience it was not intended for and the consequences are completely unpredictable.
The statement "Your reaction is in the script" is false.
Just as it is impossible to predict the weather even a few days into the future, something as complex as human reaction and intereaction is equally unknown.
So its time to beat those butterfly wings and create a storm.
Very interesting show (InsideTrackNews050507a.mp3) Fintan. So tell us, who are the insiders meant to keep us occupied and who are the real (that would include you, of course, hahaha) investigators? Of course we know you put Ruppert in the disinfo category. What about Hopsicker? He's was going on about Ruppert not so long ago. Is he part of the game plan to keep us all occupied? Mike Ruppert has laid out for view at least some of his past (at least what he claims is his past) but I don't know much about Dan Hopsicker other than he used to actually work for the main stream media. Could that be a clue? Wouldn't he be a perfect sleeper-cell false-investigator to plant in the OKcitybombing/9/11 script? What about David Ray Griffin? Is he also a plant? What about Paul Thompson? Why don't you start a web-page laying out your evidence for phonies and realies? I'd love to see it!
Any group, intelligence agency, military or civilian cabal, high level government figures, or any combination of these four, arrogant enough to pull off a crime of this magnitude, must have been confident even before they executed the plan that they would never be exposed.
Remember how Winston Smith was deceived by O'Brien into thinking he was part of the resistence. It is always wise to question everything, and everybody when we are dealing with conspiracies of this order. This kind of healthy scepticism should be applied to all who make any assertions regarding this topic, including such notables as Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Wing TV, Ruppert, Griffin,- et al. And don't blindly accept everything that Fintan puts forward either. It is of the utmost importance that each person think critically about this case. The movement is only as great as the sum total of it's parts.
I am starting to have my doubts about Hopsicker too. His ridicule of anyone who questions the 19 high-jackers with box cutters story is a little odd. And isn't he a bit non-chalent in the way he mocks the the so called Venice, Florida intelligence assets. I don't know about you, but I would be scared shitless if I knew I was so close to the operational heart of this kind of conspiracy.
Good discussion. My personal experience tells me that all of these crazy war games are very scripted and yes, right down to the people's responses. An easy example is the lead up to the current Iraq war. If you paid attention, you can actually watch the script changes and updates where necessary. These guy aren't just working one script, they have many and a room full script editors working overtime. Even with the release of this document, http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1593607,00.html ... a large part of the US people still support the illegal "oil war". To the person who said that you can't predict human reactions ... they did a pretty good job!
i would like to point your attention to this page i put together
trying to make a little sense out of the
madness that is 'the steering committee'
http://www.warcrimes.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/conspiracy.html
it is a long page which demands you attention and a little reading!!!
thanks for the great heads up Fintan & Kathy
hope you dont mind me using some of your graphics and leads
much love
captain wardrobe
Wow, I'm not sure why so many are commenting as Anon. I guess it shouldn't matter, but I would certainly be interested to know if they think it is less that prudent to expose yourselves, or would your somehow give you away?
Come to think about it, I suppose my initials are tending toward the anon. category, although I'm hoping Fintan recognizes me. (bgtruth.blogspot.com)
I enjoyed and appreciate several of the comment postings.
Here are my personal opinions (unsolicited, of course) about some of the key people in the truth movement (this is very off-the-cuff):
FINTAN:
In addition to reading web pages, and listening to broadcasts, Fintan was kind enough to give me a ring sometime ago and chat for a while. It was a pleasure and an honor.
I wouldn't say that I esteem Fintan above all others, but I don't for a moment believe he is secretly behind the "dark side".
SIBEL EDMONDS:
For many of you, Sibel is only a side show, perhaps since you haven't heard her speak to the major anomalies of the govt./media version of 911. My main comment would be that she only speaks of what she directly witnessed.
I would strongly ask you to investigate further. She seems clean and the real deal to me.
Do I believe Dan Ellsberg is a handler for her.... No.
Do I believe Dan Ellsberg is on the up and up. I don't know.
With respect to Ellsberg, when he was on the Meria Heller Show before the 2004 Election, he seemed to reject out of hand Meria's question that it wouldn't matter whether Kerry or Bush won. He seemed like the true concerned citizen interested in the rule of law. Was he a pawn during the Nixon debacle? Probably. Is he a pawn now?
Back to Sibel: Not that my first- person meeting her in June of '04 means anything, but I did attend the small (tiny) protest in Washington where she and Ellsberg spoke, and, apropos of nothing in particular, she got a Code Pink award.
Everything about Ms. Edmonds rings true to me, as her web site name implies:
www.justacitizen.com
DAN HOPSICKER
It may seem like I'm namedropping here, and maybe I am. I guess I'm trying to establish a smidge of credibility, since I've been been closely following the whole 911 Truth stuff since 911. When I attended the San Fran 911 Truth Conf., Dan was there, and I was able to chat with here briefly. For anyone that would cast aspersions Dan's way, I would introduce as evidence that during the conference (near the end), Dan appeared genuinely depressed due the way he was received, and specifically with regard to Ruppert being a near superstar. He later wrote a bitter post (can't remember where) along the lines of why doesn't anybody recognize the important work that I am doing. It was like a Soap Opera. However, I would strongly argue that this was drama based on genuinely hurt feelings of a guy who believed in the value of the work that he has done and was sharing. How do I explain that Dan doesn't touch the implosion of the WTC buildings (or many of the other areas where it is obvious that the hijackers where there just as cover)? I don't know. I suppose he's dense in some ways. However, I don't think he's a scripted player / disinfo agent. Would a disinfo agent be willing to struggle to publish Barry and the Boys?
Well, that's enough for now. If I get any response to this post, I'll write more.
Maybe Hopsicker has a point in not addressing the more "fantastic" aspects of this case. Atta and his cohorts/co-conspirators were (assuming that they are not still alive) real flesh and blood people, and there must be a trail of evidence leading from them to at least some element of the plot. Even if they were used by the real culprits as stooges or patsies, it would be smart to learn everything we can about them. Just a thought.
You all sound like dogs chasing their tails. Trust your eyes. Both towers and building 7 were "pulled" by cave dwelling "terrorists" with nothing but box cutters. Give me a break PLEASE!!!
Woof, Woof, douche!
Did anyone see CNN one or two days after the Towers fell?
Ari Flitcher at the White House was asked by reporters
'Can you tell us about the 60 Israeli's who were arrested today in connection with the bombing?'
He appeared very annoyed by the question and immediatly closed the meeting after slamming his book shut.
Same day, later, in in another reporters meeting, in another location, the same question was asked by reporters to Colin Powel
No answer was given at all.
About three months later it was reported in a UK paper that they had been deported to Israel.
Were they a football team?
We just wonder who they were.
Memo by: Tshooter
Nationality: Dutch
Location: Spain
Religion: Humanist
Mail: tshooter_public@yahoo.com
OK, can we get a 'mainstream' team of journalists who care more about truth than their job or reputation to finally go public with the overwhelming amount of evidence presented on and offline?
I mean, how much hard evidence do you need? Like the interview with the firemen stating that '...went like boom-boom-boom-boom, (like) triggered detonations.' (Commenting on the alleged pulling of the south tower).
Photo evidence of an outward force blasting debris from the stricken towers. An appearant F-15 crossing through a video of the second plane striking.
The complete lack of remains of flight 77 in the direct vicinity of the crash-site at the Pentagon.
Not to mention the intact super-lawn. (Got to get me some for my putting green)
The infrared imaging showing the use of an outside agent like termite charges (heat well over 3000F) in all three buildings (including nr.7).
No need to go on, this alone should be reason enough for any self-respecting journalist to take action. Or.. Aren't there any left?
I ask again, step forward. Your Pulitzer is waiting.
I would do it myself, but hey, who the hell am I?
For my work I have been flying back and forth to the states more than twenty times, and you know what? Until there is an american government in place I FEEL I CAN TRUST, I am not going back to the U.S. ever again.
This is part of the reason I stopped working for an american company two years back.
As you can see, I am fairly frustrated and frankly, mad as hell.
Maybe I should apply for a position as field agent for the C.I.A. You know, 'if you can't beat 'em, join em'?
Nah. I'd probably be FUBAR due to a freak accident in my first year... Heh.
There is something in the air, I can feel it. Be it war or another PsyOp... Dunno, cannot define it.
Keep the stream alive y'all.
Rupert Murdoch is Australian.
-and that's about the only positive thing I can say about him.
Truth sucks. Gimme Politics, Commercials and Fox.
My God, my God, they're gonna kill us all. Help us if you can!
Here are the telltale signs of psy-ops disinfo professionals:
1) Attempt to discredit all the other conspiracy researchers
2) Ignore the actual arguments that are being dismissed and instead use primarily ad hominim attacks. For example, dismiss "Peak Oil Nuts" without addressing the actual evidence and providing no counter evidence.
3) Make outrageous accusations with sweeping generalizations, such as, "the 9/11 truth movement was started by those who carried out the crime" - Fintan Dunn
4) Expose a few obvious lies and conspiracies that everyone can agree with, to build up credibility, then try to dismiss the most damning and serious parts of the most horrible conspiracy of 9/11. For example, talk about the 9/11 cover-up but completely ignore some of the most blatent holes in the 9/11 Official Story, such as the missing flight 77 at the Pentagon, or the collapse of the 3 towers going down in perfectly obvious controlled-demolition manner, with hundreds of eyewitnesses who felt and heard the demolition charges going off.
4) Deflect attention to a theory regarding a less serious part of the crime, such as wasting time with connecting the alleged hijackers with the "international drug trade", a perfect distraction that keeps people from focusing on the real criminals - the Bush Administration and/or CIA/FBI/Military elements who's bizarre cover-up behavior and destruction of evidence puts their finger prints all over the crime.
By now, it should be obvious to most people that Fintan Dunn fits the above criteria perfectly. Has anyone researched Fintan Dunn's background? Who is he really? To me, he is such a blatent disinformation professional, that I recommend that people not waste their time with Fintan Dunn or BreakforNews/Wagnews anymore.
Everyone, learn how to be a critical thinker and vet through all the 9/11 conflicting claims and disinfo, because those of us who are truly interested in finding out the truth are going to be inundated with this crap more and more as the stench of the Fascist Neo-con's criminal demonic behavior and secret agenda starts reaching more and more people.
Interesting reading, well worth the time for the variety of voices. In my opinion, the evil are as prone to stupidity and error as the next guy; they will continue to make mistakes. It is the hoping and waiting for everything to tumble into place that is hard. But I am certain, that with enough mistakes all lining up, that the rest of the general public will catch on.
The whole 'critical mass' of understanding and awareness that it feels like we are on the verge of, is essential. Today's London bombings give added imputus to the politicians who scream of the need for war to protect peace, laws to guard justice and security to get a hold of liberty. The 9/11 truths can't come too soon, but I don't believe it will ever be too late.
I haven't visited this site much, nor commented before, but am glad I have now.
Namaste
Tina
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