Tuesday, August 02, 2005

The Pied Piper of the London Bombing

The Pied Piper of the London Bombing Audio mp3
Former anti-terror cop closely linked to three separate, serious incidents on the London Underground network. Most recently on 7/7 when bombs on the tube trains killed scores.

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presented by Fintan Dunne & Kathy McMahon.

by Kathy McMahon & Fintan Dunne, Editor
BreakForNews.com 1st August, 2005

A BreakForNews.com investigation has uncovered that Peter Power of Visor Consultants was closely involved on the scene of two previous serious incidents on the London Underground, before being linked to a third -the latest attacks on 7/7, 2005.

The first was in 1984 and the second was in 1987. Both were fires. The latter was in King's Cross station and took over thirty lives. Power was the the police scene commander at the fire. He now runs a private security consultancy, and is a former detective inspector in counter-terrorism.

Our investigation also shows that Power has a long-term close relationship with the current London Met Police chief, Sir Ian Blair. At the scene of the 1987 fire with Power, was detective inspector (at the time) Ian Blair. Power describes them as knowing each other very well.

Power's first known involvement with an underground incident was a fire on 23 November, 1984 when around 1,000 passengers were trapped in tube tunnels filled with smoke for three hours, after a fire at Oxford Circus underground station. The cause is thought to have been an electrical fault on a train or in tunnel cabling.

The off-duty Peter Power had fallen asleep while commuting home, when smoke began pouring into the train and the people started to panic. Power donned his police jacket, made an announcment over the train's public address system and helped lead passengers to safety.

His is a tellingly worded account:
"Eventually I made it through followed in a Pied Piper fashion by over a hundred passengers. I picked up the handset and... tried to reassure the people [there was] nothing to worry about. But what I was saying was nonsense. We had no communication with above and the smoke was getting worse, but I was appealing to people's desire to believe me."

Power's next underground emergency came just three years later on 18 November, 1987, when 31 people died after a fire at King's Cross station in central London.

[This is the same station from which -police recently claimed- the alleged London bombers split up after arriving from Luton, each to carry out their separate attacks. The station has both underground and surface mainline trains.]

Back in 1987, the blaze reportedly began in a machine room under a wooden escalator -while hundreds of commuters were in the station. Many were trapped underground as the escalator was engulfed in flames.
Power was sent to the scene to co-ordinate emergency services efforts. He was in charge of the Met's forward command post. He recounts the scene on his arrival:
"There was a scene of confusion - a lot of people trying to get on with the grisly job in hand. The present deputy-commissioner of the Met Police, Ian Blair, was already on scene as a detective inspector. We knew each other very well and he turned to me and said, "Peter, I think we've had a bomb explosion here."

I asked him why and he said, "At least one of the casualties has metal deep inside him... but we're not going to go public on it."
That tale of a bomb has never been confirmed elsewhere, and the fire is regarded likely to have been initiated by a lighted match. But there were ususual factors which raised the suspicions of fire investigators. Arson has still not been ruled out.
"Reports of an earlier incident in the evening on an adjacent escalator in a nearby shaft [] raised the question as to whether the Kings Cross fire could have been caused maliciously. There had been several accounts by witnesses who described a small fire existing at the base of an escalator in the [nearby] Victoria line shaft just minutes before the [] major conflagration. This smaller fire involved an item of burning paper that appeared to have been rolled up and thrown down the shaft from or near the top of the escalator." [Source]
Power remained on the scene until late at night and at one point he gave a televised briefing to journalists.


His third and most recent encounter with an underground emergency was the London tube bombing on 7 July, 2005.

Power stirred controversy by recounting in a number of interviews how his security consultancy was running a 'terror exercise' on the morning of the bombings -which involved some of the same locations the bombs struck.

Alex Jones of InfoWars.com wrongly claimed that the exercise was a full scale event to provide cover for the real bombers --a covert state-sponsored team, said Jones. We immediately published a rebuttal on BreakForNews.com, pointing out that the supposed 'terror drill' was a merely a corporate training session for a handful of managers -conducted entirely on paper.

The Jones story spread widely on alternative news websites -despite our early rebuttal. Later, the UK Channel 4 television quoted our story in their article which not only rubbished Jones' claims, but by implication smeared all other so-called 'conspiracy theories' about the London bombing.

Power's comments and their early misreporting by Jones certainly have the look of a planned decoy controversy. One aimed at trying to spoil the pot for wider investigation of the London bombings by others.

Our previous articles on Power show him to be very well connected, both in industry and in the media -especially the BBC. In the wake of terrorist-related incidents, he frequently appears on BBC news and informal current affairs shows. He has also sat on a Canadian security board with a partner in former New York mayor Rudi Guiliani's quite similar security consulting firm.

In recent weeks, Sir Ian Blair has been warning that the U.K. is still a likely target for another bombing attack. Our uncovering of a confirmed close relationship between Sir Ian and Peter Power certainly raises the spectre of a security nexus encompassing the police and the corporate sector in circumstances where both stand to gain from such 'terrorist' attacks. Though, it's clear there is no evidence that either have been complicit in activity which is criminal.

Peter Power's remarkable proclivity for involvement in underground emergencies, and the joint supervision by Sir Ian and Power at an Underground fire which may have been deliberately set, is only sure to add to those concerns. Despite there being no evidence either were complicit in any fire-related criminal acts.

Nevertheless, considering a backdrop of clear political benefits in the event of terrorism attacks, for the U.S. and U.K. governments and the military industrial complex, and there is a clear potential supporting our analysis that the London bombings were a covert black operation.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Kathy's recent excellent investigation on Peter 'Pied Piper' Power now, at least in part, vindicate Alex Jones?


7:26 am  
Blogger FintanDunne said...

The whole Alex Jones thing -we have moved on from it. That incorrect story by Jones about Power running a 1,000 person terror drill as cover for the attacks has helped smear ongoing investigation of the London Bombings. The mainstream has rubbished it -and who can argue. The story was a disaster.

There is no way to defend Jones' assertion that an eight-person, on-paper only, corporate management training session --was really a 1,000 person terror drill with field staff in the Underground providing cover for the real bombers. Jones is out to lunch on this issue now. Hasn't even issued a retraction.

It was a tinfoil hat story, and as a result, Peter Power has now been well ringfenced against further media examination. But not if we can help it.

We now have published four reports on Power.
All these stories stand up.

August 2, 2005
The Pied Piper of the London Bombing
July 24, 2005
Mainstream Ridicules Visor Terror Drill Hype
July 13, 2005
Giuliani Linked to London Terror Drill Boss
July 11, 2005
Alex Jones is Wrong on London Terror Drill

12:46 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What are you getting at though Fintan??? He was a passenger on a tube train, and there was a fire!? And he was part of an investigation into another fire?! So what?! Are you inferring that these were deliberately set fires, to kill passengers, and he is part of it all? Report if you want to report, but don't imply things into your report unless you're are going to back them up, otherwise you sound like what you are, a child that has a website to spout his views. And for what ends? And you've started going on about AJ again, surprise, surprise! On another topic, I've heard you mention that AJ reports stories without having any real sources to back up his claims. Well your story on how the 7/7 attacks were actually carried out is laughable! You don't have a shred of evidence to say this is what happens, it is all pure opinion, it is all hot air, your a child telling stories, your drunk on conspiracies, sober up fintan, sober up!

5:42 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol. No wonder you're freaking out dude. He just nailed these guys and Jones messed up.

7:18 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Whole Alex Jones thing - we have moved on from it." Fintan.

No you haven't Fintan.

You're point about the drill as being planned is close to the mark IMO.

But you are very publically and consistantly calling AJ, effectively, a c**t.

On the radio show on Sunday you said it was Alex's "job" to get it wrong. Can you explain this?

Is he a shill in your opinion? A useful idiot?

7:55 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan, you are quite a case. Divide and conquer is a tried and tested NWO tactic, and you're certainly doing that. Hmmmm; perhaps it's your role to muddy the waters? Or is all this stuff about Jones just your own narcissism showing through?

Publish your own retractions of stuff you're neophytes have shown you've got wrong, and show us the evidence you were honest enough to admit you didnt have a couple of weeks ago because you didnt have the resources to go and find it.

9:22 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its the real Mick Verran again, just to remind you that I offer nothing of value to this thread, just useless criticism. You will continue to see my time-waste postings whenever my friends try to start negative momentum in an otherwise useful thread. I learned this from my demigod Alex Jones. Endless repetition always make things true, doesn't it? Now who did I learn that from?

9:40 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My postings keep disappearing, but you might take on board that Peter Power is more conected than you have already said. In fact he is the author of the present response stategy, so he would know exactly what the emergency services would do om 7/7:
see http://www.visorconsultants.com/teamvisor_peter-power.html

Peter has a senior Scotland Yard background which includes setting up the multi agency operational management structure at the Kings Cross fire, secondment to the Anti Terrorist Branch, deputy forward control coordinator at the Libyan People Bureau siege and leading the team behind the existing police street philosophy for dealing with terrorist bombs. He is also the primary author / promulgator of the present UK Police command methodology Gold, Silver & Bronze and a founder member of the UK judging panel for BC Awards.

His role in the fire at Oxford Circus included thinking it was O.K. to knock out the driver of the train by punching him in the face!


White lies

I said, "Things aren't as bad as they appear, the smoke is no worse than a garden bonfire, we've just been told by the people on the surface that they're pulling the smoke away, so there's nothing to worry about."

On that, people looked out of the window and started to relax. But what I was saying was nonsense.

We had no communication with above and the smoke was getting worse, but I was appealing to people's desire to believe me.

This man was about to undo all the good work we had done to keep people calm

Suddenly through the crowd came a lot of agitation and the train driver fought his way back from the front, covered in soot, and demanded that we get out of London Transport property.

He was bundled into our compartment and one of us decided to give him a certain bit of advice to his face and he was knocked out.

This man was about to undo all the good work we had done to keep people calm.

So I apologise all these years later, whoever you are, but for the greater good you may have had a headache the next morning.

On the Kings Cross fire (and here he shows what a callous prick he is):


1987: Disaster undergroundInspector Peter Power was sent to the scene of the King's Cross fire to co-ordinate the efforts of the emergency services.
He ran the Metropolitan Police's forward command post for much of the evening and most of the night on 18 November 1987.
Three years earlier he himself had been trapped underground in a serious fire at Oxford Circus Tube station in London.
I attended the police station along with a particular sergeant, who, bearing in mind it was late evening, had been enjoying himself at a dinner party.
And I remember as we were belting along the streets with blue lights flashing he turned to me and said, "Sir, I have to tell you something - I'm completely drunk."
When we eventually arrived at King's Cross there was a scene of confusion - a lot of people trying to get on with the grisly job in hand.
'Bomb explosion'
The sergeant had to start writing what was happening on the white boards: the names of the people who were in, so we had a log of things. He rapidly became sober, but he was still a bit hazy.
Everyone put it down to the fact that he was in shock, but the truth of it was he was trying to make the best of a difficult situation.
The present deputy-commissioner of the Met Police, Ian Blair, was already on scene as a detective inspector.
We knew each other very well and he turned to me and said, "Peter, I think we've had a bomb explosion here."
I asked him why and he said, "At least one of the casualties has metal deep inside him... but we're not going to go public on it."
We were aware there were a lot of weird people who turned up at scenes like this who got in the way

My job was to try and preserve the scene, to make sure there were no other casualties and to try and make sure that the other emergency services had their own role to play.
My time was spent partly in the vehicle and partly out, but of course three years earlier, almost to the very day I had been trapped deep underground in a fire [on the Victoria Line], so my heart was very much downstairs.
But this was an event far worse than what we had in 1984.
We had a lot of people from the press turning up and they were getting in everywhere. We had bogus doctors.
One doctor turned round to one of them and said, "Are you a doctor?" and he answered, "No I'm not, I just like doing this."
We were aware that there were a lot of weird people who turned up at scenes like this who got in the way.
Then we had to decide who we were going to send down there and extract this awful mess of 30 dead people.
We had to look round for a team of police officers to do this. On that occasion it was more important that the people were a team as oppose to experts in dealing with dead bodies.
I still think to this day it must have been one of the worst jobs in the world - you couldn't prepare them.
After the event, people would be traumatised and the worse thing you do is send them home straight away.
'War stories'
There's a little pub next door to King's Cross railway station and we instructed the landlord to open up that night.
We told him we were about to send in a dozen or so police officers and that each police officer would be taken home by chauffeur-driven car after they had worked out their war stories and had a few drinks.
I assured the landlord that the commissioner for the police would pick up the tab.
I don't know whether he ever did, but we don't think that many of the officers who had that grisly job suffered as a result, because we wound them down gently.
We didn't send them straight home to have the nightmares.

So there we have it, Rudy in town you have explosions and Peter loves a good fire.

Now I'll wait to see how long this posting lasts.

10:24 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan's assignment was to pickup the truth flag and run with it, only to crash and burn taking as many with him as he can.

12:30 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ah come on ... "Fintan is done" was a much better Jonesism, go back to the brainwash.

12:37 am  
Blogger War On Suckers said...

This is the common old Pavlov technique applied to propaganda. Everyone knows about the dog salivating at the ring of a bell. Part II invloved turning off the light and beating the dog, only if the dog cowered in the corner could it avoid the beating. Part III was to observe the dog when both the bell was rung and the light was turned off. What did the dog do? It couldn't do anything, it was left incapacitated, trembling and unable respond.

Why the juicy info on Peter Powers with the beating on Alex Jones? Thats not hard to figure out. But then Alex uses the same technique. Hey but then the late Joe Vialls did as well and John Kaminski may have uncovered why in this article If Joe Was Right

Another expample. The 2012 Olympics announcement following by the bombing on 7-7, might well have also been an application of the Pavlov technique.

1:27 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alex is the patriot and Fintan is the disinfo agent. Next subject.

4:09 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's Fintan Dunne working for with this fancy website any way..? I actually started reading your site and listening to your shows after hearing you on Alex Jones's radio show in May04..I was quite impressed, as was Alex Jones with the knowledge and insight into the government psy-ops being played out after the Nick berg thing.. Alex Gave you allot of respect and time to voice your opinion, and to be fair you where on it mate! How?!

Anyone who knows about 911 can pass judgement on what happened in the London bombings on 7/7/05..We all know who's roughly behind it, and how it was roughly carried out, and for what ultimate purpose... You don't have to be a genius! Where do you get off slating Jones on his films about 911.. When really all you could disagree on was that he speculated that the passengers on board where gased (knocked out) then the planes where remotely controlled and flown into buildings.. It is a speculation but Alex does also quote he has sources in the pentagon where he gets such info.. Where are you getting yours with regards to the 7/7 bombings? And who told you the so called bombers where pulled over by police on the M1 and then killed in a barn somewhere.. then the remains scattered at the bomb site... This is a conspiracy theory at its best and you now give conspiracy writers a bad name.... or is this your intention my Irish friend?

Maybe AJ's story on the Peter Power thing was slightly hasty.. he did publish it rather quick after the story broke. Anyone who listened to Power on the radio and TV would/did jump to similar conclusions, and I don't give a f#~k who you are, its a strange coincidence even if it was a paper based drill involving 8 people.. same stations, same times, same dates..?! VERY strange coincidence.

Why does someone who was welcomed and allowed to openly speak, even promoted by a fellow compadre fighting this not so new, new world order openly criticise and imply they are disinfo agent! To me you seem to have no reason for putting Alex Jones down. He does seem rant and rave about certain issue's and even be very OTT.. don't all conspiracy writers?! You have to read between the lines of the mainstream, alternative and conspiracy meadia and come to your own conclusions. By you openly fu#%ing over the biggest voice in the conspiracy world.. you subsequently make yourself look a c@#t, muddy the waters even more than they are.. and fight the other sides battle for them! 'Thanks Alex' (Ooooops Fintan) - You know where im coming from u turd!

Job done for you tho mate eh?..!

11:45 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the Visor Consultants website, somewhere I've read it says that they provide 'media control'...basically it seems that Power was so good at this aspect of 'consulting' that he left the police force and bought the company! Isn't it obvious? All those who are stuck like an old record... you're being played gentlemen. Enough already!

11:52 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've posted this question before on this site (different article) but no answer... so here it is again.

HOW exactly is it possible that the Visor "drill" was only a "simulation on paper" (as Fintan says, attempting to dismiss it as possible real *cover* to the actual attack)... when Power HIMSELF said in the TV interview that "as soon as they realized it was real, the team went from slow-time thinking into real-time action" or words to that effect... ??? (sorry I don't recall the exact quote)

IF it's just "on paper" then there's nothing for this supposedly "only 8 person group sitting in an office with paper and pencils" to actually GET UP and GO OUTSIDE and "DO"... as they're "going into action"... now is there?

Or what AUTHORITY did this group have to thus "do something" AT ALL *if* it was only a paper exercise?

So what does it mean that Power said they "went into action" otherwise? HE SAID IT, HIS WORDS... SO?

Am I the only one who's not totally glossing over this (not-so-little) point?

This, to me, means ONLY that the Visor Drill was certainly NOT just some "on paper" exercise and it lends more credibility to Alex Jone's view than Fintans... IMHO.

Maybe Fintan will respond this time and clear up this little point? Hello?

12:07 pm  
Blogger War On Suckers said...

Good points. Another quote from Peter Power's interview
"The most peculiar thing was we based our scenario on the simultanious attacks on the Underground and Mainline station. So we had to suddenly switch an exercise from fictional, to real."

An interesting question I have is. Was Rudy Giuliani (Mayor of New York City for 9-11) at that meeting representing his security company? His response to questions live on CNN suggests he may have been.

12:34 pm  
Blogger FintanDunne said...

HOW exactly is it possible that the Visor "drill" was only a "simulation on paper" (as Fintan says, attempting to dismiss it as possible real *cover* to the actual attack)... when Power HIMSELF said in the TV interview that "as soon as they realized it was real, the team went from slow-time thinking into real-time action" or words to that effect... ???

Those terms 'slow-time' and 'real-time' are management consultants gobble-degook bulls**t ways of fancying-up ordinary language into consultancy-speak so as to charge $570 an hour.

Real-time means that managers have to make decisions faster -because s**t is HAPPENING.
Whereas usually they kick things around for months in slow-time.

Just because it was a paper exercise doesn't let Peter Power off the hook.

1:13 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your credibility has gone down the Dunny, Dunne! I bet you wish you never brought this up.. When are you going to explain how you know what happened to the so called bombers on 7/7?

Why dont you have Alex Jones on your show for 1 hour 25 minutes like he gave you that courtesy?! Then you might redeem yourself!

1:29 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



"Just because it was a paper exercise doesn't let Peter Power off the hook".

Shouldn't this read:

"Just because it was a paper exercise doesn't let ALEX JONES off the hook".

Oh lordy, what a sticky poo we've gotten into.


1:36 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the point in all of this, what are you getting at?

Power was there in 84 and 87 - so what?

Are you inferring Peter Power and Ian Blair started the King's Cross fire!

The problem with conspiracy theorists (sorry if I got the term wrong, I'm new to this), and both Dunne and Jones are guilty of this, is they are so keen to find a link they jump to conclusions.

So what we have learnt from this latest article is Peter Power was present at two major events, not unusual for a Met police officer, and he is extremely well connected - again not unusual for a global 'security' player.

There IS a real story here, but you haven't got it, how did Power get into his position? What is his relationship with Kiley and Sheirer?

2:53 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great Idea Anon 1.29

That is exactly what you should do Fintan.

You can ask alex if he's either an idiot or a shill.....can't wait to hear his answer :D

Adolescent Fintan. out of his depth.

That's not to knock you're often good work though!

2:59 pm  
Blogger War On Suckers said...

It is interesting to see all the suckers running to defend Alex. Fintan is right to pull Alex up on his obvious error and state that it is Alex's job to get it wrong. For example just after Eric Hufschmid broke the story on the WTC-7 demolition in Painful Deceptions, Alex went to air with a WTC-7 special of his own in which he managed to get the facts wrong on which floor was Giuliani's bunker and on the time of the collapse. "collapsed at 4:30 Eastern" sez Alex. Every other news source has it as 5:30pm, how that can become 4:30 Eastern, unless NY moved and only Alex knows about it. So he was in a hurry and got it wrong, big deal. Yet he still got it wrong in his new documentary Martial Law. Reminds me of how Michael Moore manages to drop the lone bomber Timothy McVeigh fiction into everything from Columbine to Fahrenheit.

But Fintan doesn't need or deserve my defense as he is guilty of the same tricks. For example the item claiming that photos of the South Tower top tilting at the start of the collapse are photoshoped fakes, part of a psyop. Even though those images are seen in the various videos of the event. So all the videos are fakes too I guess.

The reality is, the shit is coming down the pipe real soon and when it does, neither Alex nor Fintan will be there to hold your hand. Get over it! Besides, they'll likely be in a bunker at the bottom of a thousand foot mine shaft procreating to repopulate the Earth for the Age of Aquarius.

4:23 pm  
Blogger FintanDunne said...

Terrific! It's been very valuable to have these comment threads on the posts.

As regular readers/listeners have seen, in addition to the legitimate comments there are quite a number by professional disinfo posters who populate internet forums and blogs.

By now, there are quite a few comment threads on this blog --which are a rich source to study their tactics.

We are preparing a new article to demonstrate how they operate.

I'd like to thank the disinfo crew for their unsuspecting participation in this study, and feel free to post some more, as it helps us more than you know.

6:54 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see more alex jones defenders, than i see purposely disinformers

11:10 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow! what a show

i just cant get over that two guys

Peter Power & Ian Blair

were at 2 emergency situations....

i mean as emergency investigators too

wow what a lead

i mean c'mon....

you people should surley be investigating why Power left the Yard

and if he had intell connestions

and what KUDOS gave him the nod to become a major player in risk management
as a corporate enterprise

al la Guiliani et al

at the moment your show is childs play

its a shame F & K
[no horribleness intended]

your last show was the same...

there is shitloads of evidence to point to the coincidences of the attack

with the preceding events, which you analysed very well

IE Live 8
and the Geldof/Curtis/ blowoff

now we see a Niger famine

totally managed
via seed bank shenanigans

and you guys blow smoke around Power as if to not even
suggest that his comments on the kings cross fire are sinister

'it was just a fire'

oh really?

i would like to see you
adding to the dot some have connected

and building a picture

rather than leaving the scene of your crime
[the broadcast]

with a big fat chip still on everyones shoulders

the CCTV analysis need picture back up

and also we have to remember that all tv pictures can be manipulated

[see 'wag the dog']

there is a major shitstorm brewing

Corporate intelligence is warring with state [traditionalist] intell

and its happening worldwide to
present a feeling of good guys versus bad guys

most dont realise they are the same thing

always have been

there within lies the major lie in all of this

that we live in a 'country'

it is in reality a DEATH MACHINE

love to ya's

[a plug!]



see how all belief is steered...

even brainboxes are compromised
as part of a initiation of the armegeddon scenario

which will present the final
solution to a craving mass
wishing to see salvation

get prepared, build a firewall to your brain NOW!

12:51 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I await your disinfo expose with baited breath. About time. Still think you should go face-to-face with Jones...


4:14 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


you might remember me from a while ago. Cast your mind back to when you interviewed Daniel Hopsicker circa 2004; he raised some disturbing issues regarding Genesis Communications Network (GCN) who are linked to no other than...Alex Jones. I emailed you, starting with a quip about your photo resembling Phileas Fogg - you read the email out on air - I nearly fell off my chair! To your credit you changed your photo, but I digress. I had my doubts back then about Jones, doubts reinforced by Hopsicker's investigation of GCN. I wish you well in blowing Jones' Conintelpro cover (assuming this is the case). Evidence is all I need. Do you have any?


4:43 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

great debate, Fintan 1 AJ 1

7:40 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I may be missing something here... but don't Alex Jones and Fintan Dunne bang on about 'virtually' the same issue's. Alex with a different passion, if what sometimes slightly tunnel visioned from Jones?! Admittingly.

I think some of you geeks are a little too plugged into the internet with all this disinfo agent crap.. as if someones going to be paid allot of money to poo poo little comments on a small conspiracy forum!! I think not.

On the one hand you have Jones, he puts out 99% good info, you dont need to listen to him for that, you READ his site and articles. I personally have never heard him put a fellow conspiracy writer down unless they have attacked him first. Then you have Mr Dunne, who in my opinion also puts out excellent info, and again you dont have to listen to him for that. - My question which I doubt he will answer is, why when there fighting the same cause does he openly put Mr Jones down.. why dont he just button it and keep his opinions to himself even if he does think Jones is some kind of disinfo agent (as if, get a grip man). All this does is make him look stupid and creates threads like this when people question his integrity, and also Mr Jones..

I put it to you that either both are Disinfo agents, or both are Conspricay writers, radio hosts, webmasters trying to make a quick buck off the back of others.. I'll go with the latter.

rant over.

7:47 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL- Great thread

BTW- Did anyone Catch Jones interviewing John Loftus today?...Kept calling him Jim... hilarious stuff

maybe Fintan could do a show to shine the spotlight on how Jones is bad with names...

7:55 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan NEEDS to put some MEAT on the bones of his accusations and insinuations of Jones.

Does that make me a disinfo agent?

8:35 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Does that make me a disinfo agent?
" - Yeah, who u working for?! lol

I must say, i'm quite disappointed in Mr Dunne's attack on Jones, not because I look at AJ's site and appreciate what he's doing, but purely cos of the fact it makes him look a twat.. and this hostility from us bloggers is what he's after. He's thriving on it!

Listen to Dunne's interview with jones in 2004 again, he basically kissed his arsed and agreed with every point on 911.. apart from the bit where he tried to get one over on jones over breaking the attacks before they happened.. "Thats why your on the big bucks" I think the quote was.. And he ended the interview by saying he was really glad infowars etc and Alex where out there breaking this kind of news. Sounds like a disinfo agent to me?! lol

Dunne's prediction of Arnie for the next saviour from terrorist attacks on the west coast of the US went down particularly well with Jones too... so much so that Jones now has a site exposing Arnie for what he is, who else has done this?! I suppose this is part of his counter-psy-op strategy?

I've always been cautious breakfornews.com and radio interviews with Fintan Dunne, especially the arse kissing shows with Dan Hopsicker, who's tunnel vision of 911 as all part of a drug war.. and nothing else always worried me.

You've lost my respect now any way.

9:43 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's me again, anon 12:07 who re-raised the point (again) above about how Peter Power's VISOR Consultants "went into action" after the bombs were real (thus, still, IMHO invalidating the idea that it was just a paper consulting exercise...)

Thanks for answering Fintan, but I'm still not convinced.

The whole thing is STILL just too FISHY. It all stinks. And I come down more on the side of AJ thinking it was "possible cover" for the real bombing.

Honestly I like BOTH you guys, Fintan and Jones BOTH have something to contribute and BOTH are much less likely to be disinfo than, say, Mike Ruppert pushing his Peak Oil crap.

ALL disinfo guys have to push 90% truth and use that to get readers to suck up their 10% B.S.

It's simply up to all of us who are WAKING UP out here and trying to STOP these CRIMINALS who have taken over our world... to take the good where we can and try to spit out the 10% bad.

I don't think either AJ or FD are disinfo, personally. They just both make small mistakes, like any human.

Let's don't allow stupid personality conflicts (office politics?) to get in the way here, m-kay people? Keep your eyes on the ball...


P.S. By the way, remember these globalist fascist Illuminati f*cks think they are SO CLEVER and always put in little *tweaks* to what they do, don't they? And a VISOR is something that is used to COVER the EYES, isn't it? Too clever by half, eh? F*ckwads... LOL ...

12:17 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"unsuspecting participation in this study"...excuse me while I fall off my chair LMAO! Fintan is acting like a spoiled brat who just cannot admit he made a mistake. He is wrong about Alex Jones, now watch how Fintan will not drop this attack on Alex. He will keep going with post after post after post trying to get people to believe him. It's now become an obession with Fintan, just like a child will not stop the tantrum until he gets his way. But this time, he will not get his way because intelligent people do know who to trust. TIME OUT Fintan, go sit in the corner.

2:40 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its great to hear Kathy on the audio reports. I love her sweet and gentle approach to the news. Thanks for everything. I agrree the AJ agents are out in full force. LOL.

4:18 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re the Visor thing a few posts previously...I was responsible for running a disaster recovery operation for my company and REAL TIME means, in the corporate world, that you 'act out' or 'stage' the event just as it would happen theoretically and then proceed to do what you are supposed to do to 'fix' things....when Power says REAL TIME I'm pretty sure he means just that...Yes it's on paper because that's the 'theory' but it's then put into practice...that is how contingency/disaster recovery etc works...it's very simple and I don't see the confusion here...Visor were 'working' at the exact same time as the London bombings. Of course there's the matter of whether Power intentionally said what he said on that 7th July radio programme to create just this kind of talk...like I said earlier...we are being played!

4:50 pm  
Blogger Kathy Mcahon said...

"TIME OUT Fintan, go sit in the corner."

Hey Anon 2:40 PM

Since when did you become the one with the right to tell Fintan what to do? Back off - Fintan only does what I tell him and he ain't shutting up or going to sit in any corner. LOL

The Boss

5:02 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's just like how on Sept. 10 FEMA was on the scene in NY as in the case of Visor in London. Obviously its important to quickly block off the area so witnesses can't get a good view of what happened and also to cover up the evidence. Why is it important? So that eye-witnesses (with cameras/physical evidence) can't go public later and blow holes in the official party-line.

Anyways, the thing about Arnie playing the hero in some staged event in Cali; Jones had made that prediction ages before Finton was ever on the show.

5:45 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop with the personality pissing match. No matter who can piss the highest up the wall, we still end up with piss falling on our heads!

Unite and focus on the fact that FREEDOM is no longer an accepted, God given right! It is no longer rightly given to us, we now must demand it!

Fight back!

7:50 pm  

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