Monday, July 11, 2005

Alex Jones is Wrong on London Terror Drill



By Fintan Dunne, Editor
BreakForNews.com
July 11th, 2005 5pm ET


Radio host, Alex Jones is spreading misleading, false and overblown claims linking Peter Power, a crisis management consultant and former member of Britain's anti-terror police, to a 'terrorism drill' which Jones alleges was used to provide cover for State perpetrators of the multiple blasts.

The wild allegations leave others presenting so-called "conspiracy theories" about these attacks open to ridicule --because of false claims by the most reknowned radio show on these topics.

The weekend article by Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones was published on the PrisonPlanet.com website.

They claim that in a BBC Radio 5 interview on July 7th, Peter Power admitted that his Visor Consulting firm: "was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life."

The article goes on to claim that the Visor Consulting drill: "acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise."

Jones and Watson then equated this drill with drills reported to have taken place on the morning of 9/11/2001. They wrote: "The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11."

The article gives the clear impression that up to 1,000 personnel were involved in a London drill -including field agents who were active in the London Underground and providing cover for those planting the bombs.

That couldn't be more wrong.

In fact, Power's consultancy firm was running a small "corporate wargame" drill for the management team of a British company with 1,000 employees. Here's the BBC transcript of the interview Power gave [our emphasis]:
POWER: "At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now." [mp3 Audio]
Clearly, the figure of 1,000 refers to the size of the company whose managers were being drilled - and not to the number of participants in the drill.

Furthermore, any savvy investigator knows that these types of private-sector "risk management" drills never use field staff. Neither do these low-level corporate drills have active involvement of police or other security forces.

Despite Jones and Watson's claims, this drill was in no way comparable to U.S. drills and wargames on 9/11 -which were being run by active-duty security forces in the U.S. military, federal agencies, the FAA and various emergency services.

The London corporate drill was just a glorified administration seminar where managers get to use security buzzwords --while seated around an office table guessing how they would respond to loss of available staff for call centers, power outages, or travel restrictions, etc..

Bear in mind that Peter Power was doing a bit of hyping too, playing up the idea that his firm was so well attuned that it was running a terror drill about bombs at "precisely at the railway stations where it happened." But in a seperate, simpering TV interview [Video Mplayer] Power admits that their exercise also included mainline rail targets as well as the Underground. His firm runs these terror seminars frequently.

Anyway, any half-competent drill would predictably be based on attacks on central London Underground stations. Duuuh! Probably some of these overlapped with the actual targets.

There is much to indicate that the official version of the London bombings is not the real story -but this tale about a co-incident terror drill is going nowhere on the current evidence.

It a close call between Power and Jones as to who squeezed the most hype out of all this.

TINFOIL HAT FODDER

At the very least this has been a catastrophic error by Alex Jones and Paul Watson, sure to reflect badly on Jones' reputation.

Even more important, it will inevitably be used to laugh off critics of the official line on both the 9/11 attacks and the London bombings. The article turns all skeptics into tinfoil hat fodder.

Some of these skeptics will see this article by Alex Jones as part of a deliberate setup to try destroy the credibility of those who question the authorities.

All of which is a pity, not least because Peter Power is a figure well worth closer scrutiny -just not the kind of misplaced hype offered by Alex Jones.

Jones was careful to let Power off the hook in that article: "Mr. Power and Visor Consultants need not have been 'in on the bombing' or anything of that nature.."

Perhaps not, but Peter Power, MD of Visor Consultants is a gent who is well worth a much closer look. He is the ultimate insider in the coyly-named Business Continuity(BC) marketplace.

He was selected by the UK Government to write the Best Management Practice Guide on Crisis & BC Planning & Risk Management, a hotly-trafficed download from the DTI web site [pdf]. He also wrote the book on BC for the British Bankers Association. He is all over the media and was a previous award winner for BC 'personality of the year'.

His firm's clients in London have included JP Morgan Chase, ING, Mellon, Lloyds TSB, Morley Fund Management, Bank of New York, Arcadia Group, FCO and Universal Music.

All of which is not surprising, as he has a senior Scotland Yard background which included a stint at the Anti Terrorist Branch, and a deputy forward control role at the Libyan People Bureau siege. He frequently speaks on TV & radio, and is the darling of BBC news and talk shows.

Power surely still has close links with Anti Terror branch, and seems to operate as a "good cop" for the establishment -in PR terms. Whenever there is a terror incident, there is Peter on the BBC with a relaxed attitude; with a habitual, understanding line about how "stretched" are the security services; and with a reassuring tone which implies that all is jolly good, top-notch and well in hand.

He even once described identity cards as redundant -sensibly arguing that terrorists conceal their purpose, rather than their identity. All this counterpoints nicely with the "bad cop" security propaganda put out by official sources.

CURIOUS BLASTS

But some of those many appearances by Power stand out in the context of the latest London Underground bombings.

One was the occasion of the rocket attack on the MI6 spy headquarters itself -in central London at Vauxhall Cross, just before 2200 on 21 September, 2000. The missile smashed an eighth floor window on the southern side of the building, home to the Foreign Intelligence Service.

Although dissident Irish republicans were the prime suspects, no group ever claimed responsibility.

Another was the curious bombing of the BBC just six months later on 5 March, 2001. About 15 pounds of high explosive left in a taxi abandoned outside BBC Television Centre caused only minor damage. Attacks against the media are pretty rare. The same dissident republicans were suspected.

After the MI6 rocket attack, as usual Power was quoted by the BBC. He described the MI6 building as one of the most high profile in central London.

"If you wanted to make a name for yourself, get yourself back onto the front pages, why not go for something that's high profile and minimal risk," he said.

Why not, indeed.

Latest Update:
Giuliani Linked to London Terror Drill Boss

See also our article:
Rise of the G8 New World Order

88 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great post Fintan! OK Jones Clones ... bring it on, mutha fuckas!!! :-)

10:55 pm  
Anonymous James said...

Even if Alex Jones misinterpreted the meaning of the "1000 employees" aspect of Mr Power's comments that does not explain away the extraordinary coincidence that such an exercise, involving the same stations at the same time, was being conducted when the real bombs were detonated. Mr Power's hair may well stand on end. I prefer a more sinister interpretation based on simple probability theory. What exactly are the odds that such an exercise would be being conducted at precisely the same time? Astronomical.

10:56 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Exposing the NWO and the G8 ... brilliant. Exposing Alex Jones as a loud mouth, fear mongering, video whore ... priceless!

11:25 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't agree at all. Regardless of what you write it is extremely disturbing that the exercise was 'based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning.' That's far too much of a coincidence in my book. Why that very morning? why those very tube stations?

12:34 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Angel,

If you really want to understand the motivation of the manipulators go to http://www.hermes-press.com/cabal_index.htm and keep hammering on their intent instead of bickering on who gets it righter than the next and compensate and build on each other strength.

1:04 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Examine the truth you can see from the likes of Fintan Dunn, Alex Jones, Victor Thorn & Lisa Guliani, David Icke, Jeff Rense, or Matt Drudge to name a few alternate Internet news outlets. Or better yet do your own homework, and find you’ve taken the red pill. Otherwise its blue for you.

3:10 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question everything, and everybody. Do not close your mind to developing realities. This goes for Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Mike Ruppert, Phil Jayhan, David Ray Griffin, Eric Hufschmidt, Sherman Skolnick, and last but not least - Fintan Dunne. If I left any names out, you know who they are.

Arriving at the truth is a long and arduous process, especially when the people in control of the world would rather you remain in the dark. All the people I mentioned have made terrific contributions, and all of them have made mistakes also.

In the end, you must think for yourself. Good luck.

3:32 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There have been several Alex Jones bashings recently. Wing TV's Victor Thorn, along with Frank Whalen, and now Mr. Dunne. What a disappointment all of you are. I don't give a $%^% what your personal views of Mr. Jones are, including his rather brash delivery....He has done more to expose and bring to light the evil activities of the globalists than any of you.

Sure, pick apart Jone's "take" on the less than coincidental drills that were going on if you so choose. But that doesn't change the fact that it does ring similar in theme to the "coincidental" drills on 911. And such drills regardless of size and scope cannot be just a long series of coincidences, and must be purposeful. To assume otherwise is utter foolishness.

I don't pretend to know what Mr. Dunne's motives could be for this attack on Jones, but it certainly should please the globalists to have such an attack on their most outspoken critic.

If there were errors in Jone's reporting of the event, by all means point them out. You may even disagree with his assessments, but...to put out the headline ALEX JONES EXPOSED in such a grandstanding manner, and claiming he is a liar is no less misleading, false and overblown as you claimed he is.

The London bombings reak of an "inside job" and only the most brain damaged individuals could miss the obvious sililarities that these "terror" events share in common, over and over again.

3:39 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan

OK, game on. Get on the phone, lets have a radio showdown. So Jones/Watson mis-interpreted the drill story in the heat of the moment: we are are fallable, after all.

Remember, you were wrong about Sears Tower, Chicago. If you are going to attack Jones/Watson go for the jugular - their 'special relationship' with David 'tin foil hat' Icke. Why do they undermine what credibility they have by aligning with a character of such ilk (excuse the pun).

Don't get me wrong, everyone is entitled to their opinion; personally I found your astrological take on John Kerry's chances of election to be quite ludicrous: you got it wrong too Fintan ad made yourself look every bit as 'tin foil' as Icke [and Jones/Watson?].

As Mr Pink said in 'Reservoir Dogs': "...am I the only f-----g professional here?"

Winston (probs with blog so anon this time).

5:58 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like AJ over played this one by misinterpreting the way 1000's was used, but was it not based on the original interview and early stories, not to mention that Powers clearly expressed his amazement at this wondrous coincidence and yes, the reporter is also quite taken aback. Certainly Powers has felt more than a little heat for this, enough to make one 'simpering'?

Geez, in any event it's a lot better and certainly more understandable than Fintan's embarrassment of "it just doesn't look right" as "proof". Heh, white dots and curls of smoke, plus, the buildings fell right? Whatever, precisely, would they be trying to hide? Well it's to put in the tilt of the falling building in order to fool everyone that the structures collapse began at the point of impact. I saw it live, I guess they changed their mind during the fall and straightened it back up. Possible? I suppose. And did I get this right? Fintan says they put the tilt on the wrong side, but no, the building tilts toward where the plane hit, not as Fintan says the other way,ie towards us. So who is the disinfo dude now?

http://www.breakfornews.com/articles/PhotoFakingTheWTCFall.htm

Well, ya throw stones you ought to expect some thrown back. Vendettas aside, and they should be cast aside, I appreciate some of both Alex's and Fintan's work.

6:34 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Be Expected. Like many posting here, I did my homework and agree with a few of your Nitpicking points. By ALL means lets get the story straight. BUT In the heat of 'London's 911' a ton of info is flying and we are all trying to keep up with it best we can.

All this will be straightened out, but I for one am sooooo Tired of Gatekeepers, and the Truth Police - Alex Jones, Jeff rense, Phil jayhan, jack Blood and others get attacked because their pulling real numbers into the scene. You attack on your former friends who tried to help you, is unexcusable man.

Grow up and quit trying to "protect" us
We'll be just fine.

Iggy in Seattle, WA USA

7:49 am  
Anonymous irishdrifter said...

Here is a ram of ex scotland yard creep Powell being interviewed by CBC.

Listen to his no-brainer reasoning for the coincidental strikes taking place at the exact same moment and locations they were rehearsing.

"We've done these exercises before". Fuckwit!!

9:27 am  
Anonymous irishdrifter said...

"Be a good idea if I posted the Link - whos the fuckwit now?"

here's the link

ID

9:28 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

uhm, what the fuck is your point fintan? that alex made a mistake and the rest of us are too stupid to see it. you have clearly left the realm of independent journalist in the past few months and seem to be focused on essentially "stealing" an audience from alex jones.

listen dumbass, we dont need you to hold our hand and spoon feed us this bullshit every time alex makes a mistake.

so whats your point? should we ignore this story because alex jones misunderstood the 1000 (or deliberately misreported it, whatever)

i mean what the fuck is your agenda man? get to the bottom of this STORY not alex jones, i dont give a shit about alex jones.

its clear you are jealous of alex, er something.

10:29 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

...by the way, what prompted Mr. Peter Powers to give his 'interview' to the BBC

12:09 pm  
Blogger RHEMA said...

How can Alex Jones be wrong when he is not the one who SAID IT.

He posted video of a British official saying it. If anyone is wrong it the British official who said it, or maybe you.

Was Jones wrong to post the video of the British official saying it?

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/110705bombingexercises.htm

12:47 pm  
Anonymous B. said...

A simple question, and the only one that really matters right now:

Was it just a table-top exercise?

Or did it involve the actual presence of people in the Tube pretending an attack was taking place?

Does Fintan Dunne know that it was the former? If not, the story is still very much alive.

1:06 pm  
Anonymous captain wardrobe said...

security conferences have been held regularly over the last 4 years

crisis management teams have been readying
for an attack to keep the wheels of industry going, and the infrastructure stable

when i listened to the BBC - 5 Live recording... I took the time to
investigate other risk management strategies and conferences, which is interesting enough in itself, as to the way business works.


as a pointer to the sensationalist tones:

when 'The ricin plot revealed' by Duncan Campbell was released and then
taken off the Guardian website

Paul J Watson

wrote that a D-Notice was placed on the piece

this was not true

when i investigated further

i discovered that Watson had spoken to
Simon Aranowitz
of thoughtcrime news
who had simply floated the idea

this was then taken as de facto truth
and spun as the D-NOTICE on Ricin plot story


as a point of fact
D-Notices are something in which the media
agree to take part in

and the ricin case had a court
limit placed on reporting
certain scientists
from Porton Down for security reasons

1:51 pm  
Anonymous captain wardrobe again, sorry! said...

the comments made by Peter power are evidence of the mindset of the corporate
agenda

notice how , like fintan says

he hypes the exercises he was running on the very day of the bombing

he is doing this on National TV and radio


now anyone with business acumen
will tell you that this spot on media is a chance to sell your wares

so what he is doing is

bragging about how good his company is
to possible investors

he is being allowed to make possible capital out of
the London bombings

Reptilian, or what?

this is how our cities are being run...
its an eye opener, for sure...

when i looked into the risk management stuff
i made connections
with Rudi Guliani being in London too...


i would love to know what he was doing there
and at what meeting he was at

2:12 pm  
Anonymous End of Suburbia said...

Wow what a shit storm this is turning into! Just when integrity in "truth" movement is needed, it completely implodes.

All the gatekeepers have had this coming for a while, but this certainly seems like a coordinated melt down! We should all have seen this coming! The expectation I'm sure is that we'll all run around in circles like a bunch of headless chickens!

Maybe we should all step back for a moment and reconsider the situation. We have been fed far too much juicy info' on the London bombing. It stinks like shit, it is a trap!

Remember back to the Moscow double plane bombing August 24 11pm Moscow time. There were too many clues, it was too easy, it was a setup. They followed it with the slaughter of all those children making anyone doubting the official story appear like a completely inhumane tinfoil hatter.

Well sadly I think it is time to put on those tinfoil hats and look at numbers and dates and parellels with 911.
One of the obvious ones to check out is the Lone Gunmen pilot episode that screened 191 prior to 911 and was essentially the 911 plot, right down to the plane taking off from Boston Logan at 6:50(pm instead of am) and piloted by remote control with "110 souls onboard" and "your flights about to make and unscheduled stop in exactly 22 minutes, the corner of Liberty and Washington, lower Manhattan, the World Trade Center". Compare this to the recent Doctor Who episode "Aliens in London", a SciFi parody on the 911 story. I've posted this here before but I'll repeat it again. The time on Big Ben at impact appears to be 10:58 but it is not. The clock face is back to front and the real time shown 2:02. The next scene shows the clock face the correct way around and the time is 6:11.

Now check this out. July 7 on the Chinese calander is 6-2, in Roman numerals it would read VI-II. And there is more. Many have noticed 2005-7-7 can be represented as 7-7-7. Well 2005-7-16 by the same logic could also represent 7-7-7. What is June 16 on the Chinese calender? It just happens to be 6-11.

Just one more coincidence. The International Herald Tribune (published in NY and printed in Taipei) features a really wierd logo that appears to depict all this shit and a clock face showing the time 6-11.

I hope I'm wrong and this is all just some crazy coincidence!

BTW the Moscow double plane bombings were on the 11th day of the Olympics, 1077 days after 9-11 and a first quarter moon. July 16 is also a first quater moon. 911 was a last quarter moon.

2:42 pm  
Anonymous End of Suburbia said...

Correction to the above post
"What is June 16 on the Chinese calender? It just happens to be 6-11."
should read
"What is July 16 on the Chinese calender? It just happens to be 6-11."

2:51 pm  
Anonymous capt wardrobe said...

i've got a better one than that

the number 777
actually correlates to the way

secret gold bullion stashes
garnered from slave labour in mines
were labelled after WWII

777 corresponded to the East Asia region

now

it turns out

that Getty
the Financial wizard

was caught dealing with the nazis

and laundering the money through the Corporation of
London


who had ownership of goldmines

guess where?

Korea

----------------------

the truth movement needs criticism

it needs to find the
conflict of interests

to prove that this corporate fascism is
morally wrong

2:55 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is pathetic. I guess Mr. Dunne is too stupid to understand what the word "comparable" means. For instance he says:


Despite Jones and Watson's claims, this drill was in no way comparable to U.S. drills and wargames on 9/11 -which were being run by active-duty security forces in the U.S. military, federal agencies, the FAA and various emergency services.


Comparable does NOT mean identical! All over the mainstream media people are comparing 9/11 to 7/7 even though the attacks were quite different. There are still things you can COMPARE! In this case Alex Jones is COMPARING the fact that in BOTH cases war games which were VERY similair to the real attacks happened on the day of the attacks. THAT is the important point people! Not how many "field agents" were involved or whether the drills were carried out the military or a private contractor!

Mr. Dunne has shown here only the ability to major in minutia. Straining at the knat he's swallowed the camel.

3:00 pm  
Anonymous End of Suburbia said...

While I'm on numbers, just one more thing. Some who read my above post may be have noticed July-16 doesn't count backwards to 9-11 to produce an illuminati-ish number. That is true, but just maybe it counts forward to another date. That number being 117 days and the date being November 11. Now 11-11 this year is really interesting because on the Chinese calander it is 10-10 (and it is also very close to a first quater moon). http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/MoonPhase.html

3:05 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fact remains that drills were going on at the exact moment, the exact place of where the bombs went off.

You have become a little poddle snipping at the ankle of Jones/Watson

One less listener Fintintin

Bye

3:30 pm  
Anonymous End of Suburbia said...

Just one more correction to my above post. The time on Big Ben which is shown as a mirror image appears to be 9:58 however the real time on the clock is 2:02. And in Roman numbers that would be II:II.

(Sorry I should have spent more time proof reading my first post.)

3:48 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Anonymous 3:30 PM,

You are the weakest link, Good-bye!

3:50 pm  
Blogger mark urban said...

Fintan,

Whatever happened to the neat interviews with Hopsicker and Haupt?

Your shows are less frequent and the quality is way down. You seem to be rummaging for guests among feminist authors and radical vegetarians.

I think you "jumped the shark" shortly after your show about the recovery of Italian journalist J. Segrena in Iraq.

Now you are resigned to attacking Alex Jones like a gnat with a hardon.


I guess Victor Thorn and Lisa Guiliani (whom you subsequently attacked) gave you an earful about AJ.

AJ is hawking books, videos and memberships for his website; you, on the other hand, are hawking neem.

Is that neem anything like the mind-control sauce they were using on the General's chicken in the movie UNDERCOVER BROTHER?

5:32 pm  
Blogger Fintan, BreakForNews.com said...

I know that London was an Op
I've written about it:

But, there is a sentence from this new article that really should be getting more focus...

...This one:

"Some of these skeptics will see this article by Alex Jones as part of a deliberate setup to try destroy the credibility of those who question the authorities."

Are you getting it?

I know that many do get it.
And some got it a long time ago.
I did.

6:25 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Phil jayhan" keeps popping up. Isn't he now touring the country at the behest of God? Will he be banning members of the audience who voice disagreement with him or just threaten to shut down his website if any audience members disagree?

LOL...

Alex Jones is interesting. I still support his prisonplanet.tv site but he *definitely* reaches conclusions hastily, *definitely* exaggerates and both of those are damaging things to do when purporting to report the "Truth".

7:17 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mark urban said

"""Your shows are less frequent and the quality is way down. You seem to be rummaging for guests among feminist authors and radical vegetarians."""

I have to agree that shortly after donating to breakfornews.com the number of broadcasts dropped considerably.

"""
Is that neem anything like the mind-control sauce they were using on the General's chicken in the movie UNDERCOVER BROTHER?
"""

I actually tried out neem. My brother had bad acne which the neem helped with. My mother had an infection which the pharmaceuticals were not helping with and she benefited from neem tea.

Is your brain really small enough to equate selling a beneficial herb to hawking poor quality documentaries? MASTERS OF TERROR and ROAD TO TYRANNY are Alex Jones' best work. Most of the other films the world can do without but that's true of many film makers.

7:27 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan, you aren't doing anything here but undermining your own credibility. AJ and PW made it CLEAR that the London exercises were done by a private firm and the 9/11 exercises were done by the government. From AJ's website:

On a BBC Radio 5 interview that aired on the evening of the 7th, the host interviewed Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, which bills itself as a 'crisis management' advice company, better known to you and I as a PR firm.

and:

The exercise fulfils several different goals. It acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise.

This is precisely what happened on the morning of 9/11/2001. The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning.

It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11. This meant that NORAD radar screens showed as many as 22 hijacked airliners at the same time. NORAD had been briefed that this was part of the exercise drill and therefore normal reactive procedure was forestalled and delayed.


It's clear to anyone with a 5th grade reading level or better that AJ realizes there were certain subtle differences between the two sets of drills. The point they were making is that these drills added "smoke" on the ground to what was going on. Someone sees something suspicious on the train? Maybe it's part of the drill. You realize London was an Op? Great! The fact that drills were being run at the precise times and locations is one of the best smoking guns of this I've seen. Unlike the "Netenyahu pre-knowledge" story, this one can't be retracted.

7:57 pm  
Blogger mark urban said...

anonymous said:

"Is your brain really small enough to equate selling a beneficial herb to hawking poor quality documentaries? MASTERS OF TERROR and ROAD TO TYRANNY are Alex Jones' best work. Most of the other films the world can do without but that's true of many film makers."

Perhaps my brain is small; however, with regard to both AJ and FD there is an effort to monetize one's internet presence, which, I might add, I have nothing against.

What I am saying is that Alex is very direct and adroit. He backs up his assertions, and, if he is wrong, he corrects himself.

I like AJ; however, I can also understand why he gets under peoples' skin. He is just as much a creature of the Bible thumping midwest as he is a denizen of Austin, Texas, which must be about the most liberal city in the region. If you want to know where AJ gets his rage just search for some old Bill Hicks routines from around the time of the Waco massacre.

Fintan, on the other hand, still falls for the false dichotomy of left and right politics: for the longest time he was holding out for Kerry to challenge the election results and spend some of his $51 million war chest on fighting the bogus results in both Ohio and Florida.

I do not pretend to understand what drives Fintan; however, I suspect he comes from a liberal bias that is recalibrated everytime Al Franken says he buys the government version of 911.

Just my two cents with a modicum of humor.

8:36 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan says:

"But, there is a sentence from this new article that really should be getting more focus...

...This one:

"Some of these skeptics will see this article by Alex Jones as part of a deliberate setup to try destroy the credibility of those who question the authorities."


Yeah I get it, but I see it the other way Fintan. Your the one with the vendetta/agenda. And in this case you have blown a big hole in your foot characterizing what is at WORST a misinterpretation ( and even that is stretching things) with the hyperbolic headline ALEX JONES EXPOSED!! . Get a grip or get lost. Drop the vendetta or you'll be marginalized as a provocateur, in fact it's already too late for many listeners.

8:38 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poor Fintin, made himself look real small with all of this

9:21 pm  
Blogger Fintan, BreakForNews.com said...

Regular listeners/readers should realize by now that some of these comments are from Trolls of the expected variety.

The idea is to personalize things. To try throw a smokescreen around the issues. I've seen all these tricks before. They are old routines. Yawn.

I already factored them in.
I knew they would show up.

As you probably know, it's not going to stop me from calling it as it is.

9:26 pm  
Anonymous irishdrifter said...

Captain Wardrobe,

You know that photograph on your site, the london bombs page, the underground train in the tunnel.

Why do you think it is that someone went to the trouble of photoshopping the carriage door. I have examined it closely, and the picture has been tampered with.

The bombs were so powerful none of the dead have been identified yet. Apart from one with a [Stop the presses!! Jerusalem Post] jewish name.

Where is the blood spattered carriges? Where is the destruction one would expect if the bombs were so powerful? The glass is still intact in most of the carriage. Yet 49 died?

How convenient it was in a tunnel away from the prying eyes of the public. I said to my better half on Friday evening - "I bet they are taking bodies out of the tunnel all weekend". I was spot on!

Passengers cant be identified?? How convenient. But, they have identified the suicide-bombers already apparently. Latest news suggest that another "Atta Passport" scenario is unfolding.

This reeks of a pysop!!

9:54 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How very Irish of you Fintan to get cheap milage out of this, understandable, misinterpretation by Jones.

You could have pointed this out in a far more graceful manner...a little psy-op of your own?

You claim to 'call it as it is', Jones, in my experience calls it as he sees it. And he's supposed to be the one with the ego?

Jones is a bit like a kid brother to some of us. We like him for who he is and what he does. We [i]know[/i] he can go overboard sometimes, (we don't nedd uncle FIntan to point it out to us!,) but, like a kid brother, we know what he's really about. And we're ammused by some of his ways.

You have, with a bit of a vengance it has to be said, gone out to discredit him.

If that's the truth, great, point it out...but you'll have to do a lot better than sieze upon his exhuberance and turn it against him.

That particular quality we are all well aware of, and we like Alex for it, because that personality trait has woken many people up in and of it self.

He has a natural communicative talent, even with his faults, that you will never emulate.

Sorry to say it...but you pretty much asked.

10:10 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, so let's say we find out the 'truth' about the 7/7 bombings (we never will, and that's my point, I guess). Then what?

Everyone's blowing a lot of hot air on a fire that's burning out of control. We (the people) need to start pouring some cooling water on the situation instead of wasting so much time bickering over the details. How this cooling force should manifest itself, I can't say, but you can be certain that when it happens, it ain't gonna be pretty.

Just my 2p.

10:44 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan, BreakForNews.com said...

Regular listeners/readers should realize by now that some of these comments are from Trolls of the expected variety.

The idea is to personalize things. To try throw a smokescreen around the issues. I've seen all these tricks before. They are old routines. Yawn.

I already factored them in.
I knew they would show up.

As you probably know, it's not going to stop me from calling it as it is.

9:26 PM

===================================

Fintan, be a man and admit you tried to make a mountain out of a mole hill

Until you do that, you keep making yourself look like nobody trying to to make points going after a somebody

10:49 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Factor in this: Gatekeepers are getting fried all over the net, Democratic Underground, Daily Kos and now Fintan Dunne?

So who are you Fintan? I mean besides a character in "Hour of the Cat"?

Today Fintan reports that the bombs were military grade. But look here:

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/07/the_london_bomb.html

So should Fintan's standards apply to himself? Why no, that would be nitpicking or now trying to put up smokescreens.


The Pot is black.

.... and I'm outta here. Too many important things to do.

But wait, like him or hate him, Alex is mostly right.
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/august2004/082604alexwarned.htm

10:54 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is too funny! All the "Jones Clones" are out in force! You all keep missing the point, Fintan is constantly evolving and Alex is not. Why would Alex better his shtick when he is getting rich off the same old paranoia routine?

I can picture your possible future, sitting in a trailer, listening to your $179 short wave radio, w/sideband because the 8 bit free stream is like fingernails on a blackboard. Calling in "the show", coughing up the one lung you have left because you chose using "resonance frequency" over well researched methodologies. And that pathetic and annoying whistle from your toothless mouth, making all your talking points all that more interesting and entertaining? Why didn't you have your secret gold stash melted down for new teeth? At least that would give you some sort of interest on your investment. Did you remember to watch the latest edition of the fake conservative/journalist Tucker Carlson? Alex told you to watch it and "buy his latest video"!

Are we all in cages yet? Or has that been gifted to the next generation? While you continue to pay your premiums for the same old shit, remember that the last thing that Johnny Rotten of the Sex Pistols said ... "have you ever feel like you've been cheated"?

11:10 pm  
Anonymous irishdrifter said...

Point of clarification!

I am not Fintan!!

ID


Is Fintan Irish?

Prolly a "plastic paddy", I mumble to myself!!

Just kidding Fintan.

11:36 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice try anon 11:10, look who is ... "personalizing" things? "To try throw a smokescreen around the issues. I've seen all these tricks before. They are old routines. Yawn"

11:44 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are no "Jones Clones", just people perceptive enough to realize that Alex is telling the truth.

11:46 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"You all keep missing the point, Fintan is constantly evolving and Alex is not."

Oh, so that's the point here is it?

Dunnederheads

11:59 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi Fintan

http://www.infowars.com/

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/

Love Alex & Paul

12:04 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Hi Fintan

http://www.infowars.com/

http://www.propagandamatrix.com/

Love Alex & Paul
\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

Dear Alex & Paul, are you in need of an assistant?

Somebody to cleanup around the office?

Will work for food

Fintan

12:13 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for attacking Alex Jones. You exposed yourself you luciferian baby eater.

12:34 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love Alex Jones

12:39 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I love my wife and children ... although I was tempted to eat the babies at first. Yummy with some nice steamed of broccoli ....

1:13 am  
Anonymous captain wardrobe said...

irishdrifter said...
-------------------------------
Captain Wardrobe,

You know that photograph on your site, the london bombs page, the underground train in the tunnel.

Why do you think it is that someone went to the trouble of photoshopping the carriage door. I have examined it closely, and the picture has been tampered with.

--------------------------------------

check this out


http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/911videolie.html

-------------------------------------
i simply don't know
but linking a photo op to my pages veracity
is a bit

well er

do you want a lecture on
ideology programming in a post industrial
security state?

----------------------

like the rest of some of these these strange postings

it is apparent that critical thinking

even if it means

hurting the ones you love

the ones who woke you up
[thanks Alex Jones for that...and you too Fintan]

we must not resort to dogma

unquestioning loyalty

this is the tool
of fascism

i wanna beat that shit!



'they' control their version of the truth

the corporate media and the corporate courts

will never accept any inquiry to these tyrannical acts

look further down the timeline

open your eyes

thing BIG PICTURE

BIG SCENARIO


your grandchildren might, then
finally


forgive us

one day

1:15 am  
Anonymous Chris said...

You're guilty of what you accuse Alex of, more so in fact.

[Radio host, Alex Jones is spreading misleading, false and overblown claims linking Peter Power, a crisis management consultant and former member of Britain's anti-terror police, to a 'terrorism drill' which Jones alleges was used to provide cover for State perpetrators of the multiple blasts.]

[They claim that in a BBC Radio 5 interview on July 7th, Peter Power admitted that his Visor Consulting firm: "was running a 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life."]

The article goes on to claim that the Visor Consulting drill: "acts as a cover for the small compartamentalized government terrorists to carry out their operation without the larger security services becoming aware of what they're doing, and, more importantly, if they get caught during the attack or after with any incriminating evidence they can just claim that they were just taking part in the exercise."

Jones and Watson then equated this drill with drills reported to have taken place on the morning of 9/11/2001. They wrote: "The CIA was conducting drills of flying hijacked planes into the WTC and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. It is clear that at least five if not six training exercises were in operation in the days leading up to and on the morning of 9/11.]

"The idea is to personalize things. To try throw a smokescreen around the issues. I've seen all these tricks before. They are old routines. Yawn." - Fintan Dunne

Yeah they're guilty of that right? Its not you who just personalized things trying to throw a smokescreen around the issues... No you wouldn't dare...
They ARE old routines indeed. Yawn.

[Furthermore, any savvy investigator knows that these types of private-sector "risk management" drills never use field staff. Neither do these low-level corporate drills have active involvement of police or other security forces.]

Where is your proof for that claim? Oh thats right its just speculation, you're quite the "savvy investigator".

[Despite Jones and Watson's claims, this drill was in no way comparable to U.S. drills and wargames on 9/11 -which were being run by active-duty security forces in the U.S. military, federal agencies, the FAA and various emergency services.]

"Despite Jones and Watson's claims", this drill was "in no way comparable"
Oh our "savvy investigator" says its "in no way comparable". I guess that makes it so.

[The London corporate drill was just a glorified administration seminar where managers get to use security buzzwords --while seated around an office table guessing how they would respond to loss of available staff for call centers, power outages, or travel restrictions, etc..]

No need to back up that claim either, just keep "telling it like it is".

[Anyway, any half-competent drill would predictably be based on attacks on central London Underground stations. Duuuh! Probably some of these overlapped with the actual targets.]

Yeah "any half-competent drill" would! Duuuh! They just "Probably some of these overlapped with the actual targets"!!! More savvy investigating!

[There is much to indicate that the official version of the London bombings is not the real story -but this tale about a co-incident terror drill is going nowhere on the current evidence.]

Again, this is flat out wrong, his article has had a massive effect and is one of the biggest stories on the internet. I'm sure you know that though, you wouldn't be writing this cute little piece of sensationalism if you didn't.

[It a close call between Power and Jones as to who squeezed the most hype out of all this.]

I say it was YOU whose squeezed the most hype out of all of this.
"was running a 1,000 person strong exercise" Oh my god they made a mistake!!! Hang them for their "deliberate setup to try destroy the credibility of those who question the authorities."!!! They're guilty of "TINFOIL HAT FODDER"!! "At the very least this has been a "catastrophic" error by Alex Jones and Paul Watson, sure to reflect badly on Jones' reputation." Yes at the very LEAST its been "catastrophic"! By that measure "Its sure to reflect badly on Jones' reputation"!!!

[Even more important, it will inevitably be used to laugh off critics of the official line on both the 9/11 attacks and the London bombings. The article turns all skeptics into tinfoil hat fodder.]

I agree, more importantly, like Fintan Dunne, we need to appeal to our critics for fear of being laughed at! This article "turns ALL skeptics into tinfoil hat fodder." All us skeptics are now "tin foil hat fodder"!! Down with the Article!! Down with Alex Jones!!

Now the crown jewel which Fintan Dunne went as far as to repost in his comment:
[Some of these skeptics will see this article by Alex Jones as part of a deliberate setup to try destroy the credibility of those who question the authorities.]

Watch the Magic of projecting your self-image onto others revealed with a single trick!

[Some of these skeptics will see this article by FINTAN DUNNE as part of a deliberate setup to try destroy the credibility of those who question the authorities.]

[Are you getting it?

I know that many do get it.
And some got it a long time ago.
I did.]

Yes Fintan WE GET IT. Your show has collapsed because of you feeble littleness as a human being. You think by attacking others you can improve your tarnished reputation. To think Alex had you on his show and praised your analysis of the Nick Berg psy-op. How did you respond? By attack him of course! You said "he needed your credibility, like you needed his advertising"! You wrote "911 skeptics are lurching to the right" and compared him with wingtv! You wrote "Alex Jones is Wrong on London Terror Drill"! Actually, Alex Jones gave you all your credibility and you bit the hand that fed you! Thats what - I - have to tell you Fintan! See yourself as you truly are! Don't run away! Have the courage to look at yourself!

[Are you getting it?

I know that many do get it.
And some got it a long time ago.
I did.]

1:37 am  
Anonymous with love captain wardrobe said...

blimey

what a rant!

but its an opinion

and those things are good aren't they????


EVERYTHING IS INFORMATION

use it develop it

form an opinion


cool

but

why defend someone so dogmaticly?

sure Alex has done a lot

no one wants him stopped

it's not about that.....


it's about sensationalism

it's about sources


sure

let a few things fly


but with this

VISOR shit

this is just a small part of the big picture

the authorities say they need 2 weeks
to analyse the CCTV footage


thats a BIG CLUE

wait for the
evidence

wait for the next PSYOP


and please stop argueing


Alex Jones can fight for himself
he's had his fair share of shit

get him on the show fintan

lets show these idiot fascists

that we can be human an respect
each others differences

or are we past this scenario?

are

'we'

no more?

if so

'fuck it'


carry on

'kill the elite'

heres some music that i made

its free
so enjoy it
or dont


use it if you want

http://www.wardrobe.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/moosic/ta.html

know this:

i unconditionally love every one of you motherfuckers

in a big drunken annoying
kind of way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

where i get too close and stink you up


research for yourselves
IOL is a good updated newswire

sat on it all day today

how many 'terror' alerts????

2:23 am  
Anonymous Roxdog said...

Anonymous? Pussy...

3:16 am  
Anonymous irishdrifter said...

Commander Closet

I simply asked a question? I did not cast aspersions on the veracity of your article. My lady doth protest most loudly methinks.

Did it not strike you as obvious when you posted the picture that there was something wrong?

I mean the whole setup.

Where is the damage from an extremely powerful bomb that killed lots of people?

ID

3:29 am  
Anonymous capt wardrobe said...

we have now reports of 'suicide bombers
and ID near the scene of the Bus bomb

deja vu?????


[extract]
Police sources said they were working under the assumption that the attacks were carried out by suicide bombers. Suggestions that the bus was targeted by a suicide bomber were initially denied by police, but witnesses claimed an "agitated" passenger was seen rummaging in his bag. Clarke said police were now trying to establish the movements of the four men in the week before the bomb attacks.

"We are trying to establish their movements in the run-up to last week's attack and specifically to establish whether they all died in the explosions," he said. Six search warrants were served yesterday under the Terrorism Act on houses in and around Leeds, during the operation. "These included the home addresses of three of the four men," he said.

"A detailed forensic examination will now follow and this is likely to take time to complete." The investigation has already established that personal documents bearing the names of three of the four men were found close to three of the explosions.

Property in the name of the suspected bus bomber - reported missing by his family on the morning of July 7 - was found on the No.30. Property of a second man was found at Aldgate, and property belonging to a third was found both at Aldgate and at Edgware Road. In another development, police have found explosives inside a car left outside Luton railway station in Bedfordshire.
http://www.manoramaonline.com/servlet/ContentServer?pagename=manorama/MmArticle/CommonFullStory&cid=1121220701024&c=MmArticle&p=1002366458912&channel=Home&count=9



and so now the UL is a security state OVERT
as opposed to the covert one it was

------------------------------------

irishdrifter: i'm not protesting

dont understand
did you cast aspersions?

i agree something is more than fishy


i just dont want to see the 911
diversion and book/video fest happen again


its called uber capitalism

i dont give a fuck at all
whether you think im real or not...

i post pictures in the hope that people like you question them

if i hadn't
how could you form an opinion

dont blame the messenger

are you seriously suggesting that because a picture
i found and posteed hasn't got enough guts in it
then i'm a disinfo artist????

er....hmmmmmm

my site, if your interested

http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/


what happens when a real suicide bomber goes off?

http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/pics/terror-israel.jpg

------------------------------------

so where is the blood in the london bombings
i here you cry for answers

well that is exactly why they now call this a suicide bomber

so that it makes people who question
the presented scenario look callous by asking

'where is all the blood'???



its another operation, guys...

4:01 am  
Blogger ctrl@conspiracycentral.net said...

And you've never been wrong.... your mudslinging doesn't help dipshit.

4:38 am  
Anonymous irishdrifter said...

Er no once again.

Im simply asking about the photograph.
Whats its origins?

Im asking you to look at the damage in ratio to the casualties.

Im pointing out that the carriage door has been photoshopped.

5:35 am  
Anonymous capt wardrobe said...

--------------------------
You know that photograph on your site, the london bombs page, the underground train in the tunnel.

Why do you think it is that someone went to the trouble of photoshopping the carriage door. I have examined it closely, and the picture has been tampered with.
--------------------------

right then irishdrifter

where's your analysis?

where's your work on this?

why don't you spend 5/6 days in a row
up till 4 in the morning




dont fancy it??



-------------------------
ctrl@conspiracycentral.net said...

And you've never been wrong.... your mudslinging doesn't help dipshit.
-------------------------


mudslinging???????

eh??


this is getting weird



-----------------------------

7:46 am  
Anonymous capt wardrobe said...

if you are talking about this picture
http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/pics/pict39.jpg


i agree the photoshop is obvious

its from cryptome
it says so above the image

http://cryptome.org/lkz/london-kill01.htm


which photo do you mean if it isnt
this one?


cw
tired and emotional

7:51 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now I agree with you that Alex Jones and Prison Planet do have an ulterior motive in investigating these matters and spinning the facts to their own agenda. I'm certain that they do make a tidy profit from DVDs and T-Shirts.

However.

Much as I hate to argue semantics.

What is quoted above is not what Peter Powell says in the recording of the 15.01pm BBC radio 5 interview. That is what the transcript of the recording reads.

In the recording he says "because at half past nine this morning, we were actually running an excercise for uh, oh, v, um, a company, with a thousand people in London, based on simaultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations it happened this morning. So I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing upright"

Almost, but not quite, what has words are documented as in the transcript. In the recording he is clearly hesitating as to how to describe his client, before settling on "a company". He is not saying that the company has over 1000 people in London, he is stating that 1000 people were involved in the excercise.

It is the later 20.10pm ITN TV interview which he changes his statement to a company of over 1000 people. He also adds in this interview that his client chose the locations to be included in the drill, an attempt to distance himself?

Radio 5, Powell goes on... "we had a room full of crisis managers for the first time they'd met and so within five minutes we made a pretty rapid decision that this is the real one and so we went through the correct drills of activating crisis management procedures"

Note: " the real one" definitive article. not "a real one" nor "the real thing"

If the excercise was entirely theoretical and did not involve anyone on the ground there would have been no need to differentiate between the drill and the real world after the bombs had detonated in the way he states.The in house excercise would have had no bearing on reality and vice-versa. Also what many are now suggesting defies logic. Hiring a specialist crisis management group to perform a virtual event where all of the data is generated by managers as theory behind closed doors would be like having a fire drill in a school where the only people to know about it are the Head Teacher and senior staff and they gather all of the data from estimating how long it would take to get the pupils out and to the assembly areas, on paper. It makes no sense. Also Powell states in the later ITN interview that he had been involved since 2am, show me a corporate senior staff seminar on theoretical issues which begins this far outside of office hours... anyone?

Now we all know from experience that when a school (in the UK) has a fire drill, all of the teachers, staff and pupils are required to behave as if there were a real fire, the safety and evacuation data is collected from real events and in many cases the local fire service takes part to get data on how quickly they can respond. This is the kind of simulation service Visor provides.

In reference to previous posts. Please point out where the photoshop evidence is. I have used photoshop professionally for 7 years and I think I was looking at the right photo, but I can't seem to see it. Describe.

11:46 am  
Anonymous Filewriter said...

I'm sorry Fintan. I'm pretty sure that Alex Jones didn't misinterpret the thing with the 1000 people. Look at this interview here:
http://www.terrorize.dk/misc/london/london.terror.games.wmv
..."we sat everybody down in the city, 1000 pople involved in the whole organisation..."
I think he means the organisation of this "wargame" and not the company.
My english isn't as good as yours is I'm sure, so I could have misinterpreted this thing, so what do you think Fintan? and what the other guys here?

Greetz
Filewriter

2:50 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad most people here are recognizing this attack on Jones is the real "catastrophic error", and that Alex Jones and Paul Watson didn't depict the story falsely.

I watched the video of the Powers interview, and he did clearly say there were 1000 people envolved in the "exercise", just as Alex Jones stated.

Frankly, Fintan, your attempts to discredit Jones, and your whitewash article claiming nothing more than a corporate managers meeting took place is absolutely misleading and false.

The real question is WHY ? I don't believe you simply missed it. Your article was too carefully crafted to be anything other than purposely misleading.

And most of us do get it....and we now get you too.

3:30 pm  
Anonymous cw said...

a have added a comment thanking you irish drifter


sorry i was so

narked

i was knackered

as usual

all options are open

read this stroy - its an eye opener
http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=978732005

it mentions the

'secret organisation'

which has been traced to a webserver
belonging to a major
bush funder



it also surmises that the bombers
travelled in all directions

to create maximum impact

but the bus bomber
couldn't get up North via tube....
because
the Northern line was apparently closed
in Balham SOUTH LONDON
before the bombing due to
a train malfunction

it is a funny line that splits into
two different areas

one goes to the high barnet station
the other up towards Edgeware
http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/images/zone_big.jpg

so the odds that the entire line was closed
and that it hindered the bomber
are slim

this is the excuse for the reason he took the bus

he could have taken the victoria line northwards


and it creates a strange
notion that they didn't study a tube map
before setting off from Home


--------------------------
i lived in London for 7 years

captain wardrobe
paul c

5:34 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how could you Fintan...

HOW COULD YOU

11:07 pm  
Anonymous irishdrifter said...

CW

Yer sorry i didnt see the "cryptome factor", I myself have also been up for several days. Been there, done it, yadda...

I hear Alex Jones is gonna do an article on Peak Coffee.

ID

12:02 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK Fintan, please respond. You owe an apology to Jones, and you should post it here.

From Infowars:INFOWARS COMMENT:
In an email, Power responds to inquiries concerning the bombshell he dropped about the drills his company was conducting, stating:

"It is confirmed that a short number of 'walk through' scenarios planed [sic] well in advance had commenced that morning for a private company in London (as part of a wider project that remains confidential) and that two scenarios related directly to terrorist bombs at the same time as the ones that actually detonated with such tragic results. One scenario in particular, was very similar to real time events."

How very interesting, this confidential "wider project." In his initial interviews following the bombings, Power implied the drills were undertaken for just one client (to remain nameless but which our sources indicate is the Underground authority itself) but this statement suggests the involvement of additional parties.

The rest of the statement continues very defensively:

"However, anyone with knowledge about such ongoing threats to our capital city will be aware that (a) the emergency services have already practiced several of their own exercises based on bombs in the underground system (also reported by the main news channels) and (b) a few months ago the BBC broadcast a similar documentary on the same theme, although with much worse consequences [??]. It is hardly surprising therefore, that we chose a feasible scenario - but the timing and script was nonetheless, a little disconcerting."

Now this is from the horse's (Peter Power) mouth. So Alex Jones was correct and accurate in his reports, and Fintan, you were totally off base on both the story and your claims that Jones lied.

Fess up, or go back to your "handlers" and tell them it didn't work.

2:02 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think you're friggin' bananas myself.

The deep politics involved here leaves no room for the processing capacity of the normal human nervous system. The whole POINT of trauma conditioning is to OVERWHELM ENOUGH individuals within the society so as to ensure that meaningful communication ceases to exist.

Let's look at the facts calmly instead of trying to scoop each other, k?

The globalists have a 70 year head start on scooping the lot of us -- so who are the real morons in this tragi-comedy-drama again?

2:44 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How can you not say this is the same as the 9/11 war games?
It is exactly the same, wake and and realies what is going on you idiots.
Come on, as if this is a coincidence, AJ is right get over it LOSER.

3:05 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

there is an interview with Power over here:
http://www.jamie.com -- top post.

3:02 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What a lame peice. Why do you have to attack Alex Jones? This reeks of jealousy.
If you disagree with his take on the Powers statements, that's fine, but why attack Jones personally? Totally uneseccary. I check prisonplanet.com first when events happen, because they always have the damning info first. I won't be bothering to check this site any longer. Putz.

5:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mi, mi, mi ... stop keeling our cheeldren, mi, mi, mi ... your opinion is uneseccary ... douche!

12:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dissent within the Ranks!

Although I do not necessarily agree with everything either of you have to say, I still believe you both serve a valuable function.

It does, however, appear that you are calling into question Jones' credibility. It is one thing to point out an error in part of the story, but I am more than a little bewildered by what the title of the article suggests - not to mention, if the error warranted an entire article.

This is reminiscent of a thread I was perusing on Jayhan's 911Let's Roll forum. A long and elaborate discussion on cellular phone technology, and whether or not you could place calls from aircraft.

Let's not sweat the "small shit!"

Moreover, those of us who believe that there was government involvement in 911, Chechnya, Madrid, and now London are quite used to the odd stares.

If someone is going to believe or disbelieve 911 based on the cellphone controversy; or, similarly, on the London bombing if Visor's "war game" was entirely coincidental or not, we are f*%ked mate!

7:59 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Truth ever significantly emerges, then Alex Jones will be a large part of its ridicule. AJ is doing more damage than he could ever possibly be aware of. He consistently jumps to conclusions. He often totally misrepresents evidence and/or news items. His emotional approach to the subject is his achilles heel. Road to Tyranny represents my early introduction to this 'material'. There were others too, Hufshmid and personal friends. But Jones got me hooked cause he provided a lot of information on his sites. Soon I realized after listening to him interview that he knew very little about common societal etiquette and even basic journalism. He was just there to blab and to opine until the cows came home. If you listen to his interviews, a good many of them feature himself over his guest. He is quite simply obsessed with himself it seems. He talks over people all the time and picks and chooses what he wishes to hear. One wonders if he has ADHD or whatever the hell its called. There's a saying in spanish which reminds me of him. He is a man who talks out of his elbows.

9:34 pm  
Anonymous Lenny said...

I really think we have bigger fish to fry without melting the pan down. Jonesy gets some good jabs in, although I agree that he tends to be a bit on the pompous side--my first experience listening to him, I described him as a paranoid libertarian Rush Limbaugh. That said, both AJ, Fintan, and the rest of us are doing well in keeping our eyes, ears, and especially our minds wide-open.

6:59 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alex Jones provided the story about Powers first on the net I think. He brought what may very well be a very important lead to all our attention in doing so. As someone who read his article on it as soon as it was posted, I personally checked the source and listened to the original interview with Powers. From this I was always aware that the 1000 people were on paper only not even having noticed that Alex suggested otherwise and I'm still not sure. I'll go back and check next but frankly I don't care. The main thing is the truth was made avialable to me and for that I thank Alex, and everybody else who contributes anything towards awareness or understanding of truth. I will not thank you or anyone else for allowing petty infighting and factionalism to cloud and confuse. Let's keep our eye on the ball everybody.

9:17 am  
Anonymous am only a Paki said...

i agree with what Fintan said, i was one of the admirer of Alex jones but having a funny feelings about him lately.
he seems like a double agenda sort of guy. he is telling the truth but with falsehood hidden in it!

dont mind me saying that,am only a paki ,can be framed or bombed any time....:)

4:25 pm  
Anonymous DrJazzz said...

I would like to join those in defence of Alex here. Yes, he can go overboard (haven't we all?). I can't stand this 'is he working for the other side' infighting.

The only way we are going to beat the manipulation is to assume that everyone might get manipulated and keep questioning. But LISTENING, too. Because if we don't we can be manipulated into pressing the mute button on the truth!

I have a simple rule to detect whether to be wary of someone - they are the ones saying 'don't listen to this chap'. I am sorry that Fintan whose writings I have admired has fallen into the latter category.

Snap out of it, mate.

Also the point about the 'mainline stations' is not fair: King's Cross and Liverpool St. are, as any Londoner knows, both Underground and mainline stations. So as far as we know, Power's comments are consistent when he confirmed that 'precisely' the underground stations in his exercise were hit.

And can I offer a possible, tentative explanation for such an extraordinary coincidence, if that's indeed what happened? Could it be that it was no coincidence, and engineered that way - precisely because it's a trail that ultimately seems pointless, discrediting conspiracy theorists. If that's the case there's a point to it.

Confused?

Well maybe that's the whole idea!

11:57 pm  
Blogger Capital Crime said...

We better lose the differences people and come together, TIME IS RUNNING OUT FAST!

A Bombing in London gets us random searchs here, the end is near. Rudy G. says "The people will take a little more, we can push a little harder". Why does Rudy G. want to push us? What is his agenda?

3:26 am  
Anonymous #'s 25 said...

After sloging through 80 comments, some profound, some profane, one must ask "What, you don't think God knows what's going on?" It's Judgement folks, Judgement.

4:43 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

#'s 25,

What a bizarre and fatalistic view of us and a total underestimation of God! All divine prophecy concurred that we have been given the "freedom of choice". God couldn't give a shit about how you decide to use this gift. The so-called judgment is our own invention, its individual and not universal. You have been given all the tools you need to stop all the inevitable conclusions you have drawn. The only weakness in the logic of the universe ... is YOU! Grow the fuck up!

12:30 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I doubt if most people nowadays believe in a God in the way your describing, so it is just like myself qouting vishnu to back up a view. I most definately underestimate 'GOD'. Fintan, you really are sounding bitter and jealous, today is the first time I have logged on to your site, and I WAS quite impressed. Then I read that article. I always thought AJ was a sensationalist, but he is honest to what he does. Why on earth have you felt the need to launch a personal attck, you sound like a child, I know you don't want my sympathy, but I feel sorry for you.

10:12 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pathetic article and radio show. i feel much more stupid as a result of reading and listening. you want to jump on the anti-jones bandwagon with wingtv who have now lost all credibility. do your own investigations if you want to call yourself a news site rather than picking what tastes ok to you from other alternative news sites. you completetly misunderstand what alex jones is about, he wakes people up. what the truth movement needs is fewer people like you.

2:59 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in typical fashion, a fucking jew has to lie about the truth. you kikes are all alike, lie to the "cattle". your day will come jew, the patriots of america will see through your bullshit and fire up the ovens!!! i look forward to the day we rid the earth of trash and filth such as yourself. look in the mirror, you are everything that has gone wrong with this country. A PATRIOT.

2:04 am  
Blogger heather said...

Hey, it's great that this stuff is being discussed from all sides. At least this is bringing the subject up and questioning the sources Jones uses. Just because someone agrees with your viewpoint, you still have to watch for errors.

I agree with the comments that mention Alex Jones did not say 1,000 people were involved. He only referenced and quoted an official who said that. Of course, Alex Jones is not correct about everything, but he knows a lot, and we common people need to gain control! Vote Ron Paul, please! When we break away from the norm, we show others they can do the same. And use open source software!

P.S. I strongly disapprove of the person who commented last. I apologize for that person's lack of empathy and prejudice.

And by the way, there is shit in your factory farmed meat.

"Treat the earth well: You did not inherit it from your ancestors. You borrowed it from your children." -Native American proverb

10:36 pm  
Blogger A Well-Meaning Asshole said...

I don't pretend to know what Mr. Dunne's motives could be for this attack on Jones, but it certainly should please the globalists to have such an attack on their most outspoken critic.

Whatever dickless moron said that needs to read more.

Jones is not the foremost authority on the New World Order.
You live in a fucking dream-world.

6:02 pm  
Blogger Miss New World Order said...

It is a Troll post...

Not even up to the standards of MI5

8:49 am  

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