Thursday, July 14, 2005

Glaring Flaw in London Suicide Bombs Tale

There is a huge flaw in the official theory that suicide bombers staged the multiple blasts which rocked London. A flaw which casts grave doubt over the conclusions being presented by British authorities.

It's a flaw easily missed, because we are all dulled by the habitual media use of the term: "suicide bomber." But it is a flaw immediately obvious to any competent terrorism analyst.

Here's a trick question:

How many suicide bombers died in the 3/11/'04, Madrid train attacks?
Choose: Only one; Three died, or Five.

Correct answer: None.

Here's another: How many suicide bombers died in the decades-long IRA bombing campaign in Britain?
Choose: Twelve; Nineteen, or Thirty-Five.

Correct answer: None.

Why, in both cases?
Because they didn't need to!

That's why.

If you are an Iraqi determined to kill lots of fellow Iraqis at an enlistment center for the U.S-led Iraqi forces, you are probably going to have to give your life. The people in the center are not going to let you walk in, drop a big parcel and walk out again. Suicide is the only option.

If you are a Palestinian determined to kill Israeli security forces, then wearing the explosives on your own body may be the only way to get close enough. Suicide is the only option.

But, suicide is also the last option.

Suicide missions are only ever used where there is no other military alternative. Perpetrators are dedicated, fanatical and ruthless.

But they are not stupid.

Let's take a close look are the emerging story of four Asian Britons alleged to have inexplicably turned themselves into human bombs.

Even the press and ordinary people are puzzled:
Bombers were `normal' Britons
Knight Ridder, Jul. 13, 2005

LONDON - One loved cricket. Another was a young father. A third happily told his parents last week that he was off to London "with his mates." All three had a deep Islamic faith, but no one thought of them as radicals.

Police described the alleged bombers as friends and said they suspect that someone else planned and arranged the attack, possibly someone from outside England who would have had the expertise to make bombs out of military explosives and who likely left the country before the attacks.

According to closed-circuit television evidence, the bombers arrived at King's Cross shortly before 8:30 a.m. They were dressed like campers, each with a backpack, and were talking easily as they gathered, before splitting off in four directions.
THE PERFECT CELL

Volunteers who are prepared to engage in shootings or bombings are pretty committed individuals. They know that if caught they face decades in prison. That sort of individual is hard to come by.

And it's even harder to come by such persons who have no record of political involvement, no profile in police intelligence and banal, unremarkable lifestyles.
Dick Leurdijk, a security expert with the Dutch research center Clingendael Institute, said..."Suicide bombings aren't known in Europe... All organizations have limited resources. That whoever organized this was willing to spend four men in a single attack makes it pretty clear that there are others - and maybe a lot of others."
British authorities speak of a "terror mastermind" who made the bombs and slipped away.

The term "terror dummy" comes to mind instead.

Those four alleged suicide bombers, would have been the perfect terrorism cell. No record, no profile, no problem. Any terror group would dream of having such individuals in place and on active service. Four such persons could wreak havoc, and if carefull -never be caught.

And yet we are to believe that these priceless terror assets carried out a single suicide blitz -instead of a relentless bombing campaign?

Now let's take a look at one eyewitness account of suspicious actions by possibly one of these four men:

"This young guy kept diving into this bag or whatever he had in front of his feet," Richard Jones told The Associated Press... The No. 30 bus was stuck in heavy traffic in Tavistock Square, ...
"We banged the back of the bus and the driver then let us off," he said, adding that between 12 and 20 others had joined them. "Immediately, bang, there was an explosion behind me and I turned round and said 'I can't believe it, I just got off that bus'." [source]

So a crowd of people got off the bus, then the bomb exploded. A bomber could simply have joined the crowd getting off the bus -and lived to strike again.

To reliably plant small bombs on the London Underground did not require suicide missions. Much of London's Underground is actually overground. So radio/cellphone detonators could easily have been used.

Even a true underground bombing could have been done with a simple delay timer. Step off the tube just before the doors close and leave the bomb behind.

Then do the same thing again somewhere else next week.

And two weeks after.

Another thing that doesn't add up is that the four allegedly took a train to King's Cross station and were seen as a group -before splitting up to go each their own way. I can't see real terrorists being that stupid.

They would travel singly or in pairs. Even if travelling on the one train to King's Cross, they would be sitting in separate carriages. And they certainly would not group together as described.

News reports say they were "talking easily," just 20 minutes or so before certain death. Some cool characters, if so. And if they were that cool -then they couldn't be so dumb as to totally ignore pretty basic anti-surveillance tactics.

This attack supposedly featured sophisticated military explosives, but inept military tactics.

That just doesn't figure.

And no terror group wastes active service volunteers unnecessarily.

This stinks.

23 Comments:

Anonymous Forrest Gump (I think) said...

“Now where did I put that damned forest? I can never seem to find one when I’m in one (or am one).”

2:34 pm  
Anonymous Ahmad said...

Your quite right Fintan, this stinks big time, especially more so as you look at this people's background.
To be a teacher to special needs children requires a special dedication to human beings and their lives. To have a wife pregnant with another child means that you have a lot to look forward to. To be a dedicated cricket or football player with a sport's degree under your belt means that you have a passion for physical achievement and team play.

To go on a sophisticated mission in such an un-sophisticated manner, as you said, going together, presumably each with his own bomb in his rucksack, as well as carrying all type of identity markers, like credit cards and mobile phones, flies in the face of consistency.

For the prime minister to go on TV barely two hour after the attacks, when nobody new how things really happened and the police saying that they had no knowledge of any risk and to blame in front of the whole world, Muslims, is more like propaganda than what a responsible head of government would want to do. At least before pronouncing himself on Muslims and Islam he could have waited for a few days until the enquiry became clearer.

So it all stinks as much as 911 stinks when just a few hours later a car was retrieved in Boston airport with copies of the Qur'an and flight manuals etc.

I feel very deeply for the families of these men being accused. So far, some of their relatives have come out with profound shock and dismay that their children could have done such a thing. One never knows what goes into a human being's head, but their families simply cannot imagine their boys being anywhere near thinking doing such a thing. In fact, it transpires that a couple of those men were arrested a few months ago on petty offences, one was shoplifting, and released on the spot. Hardly your hardened "jihadist" character.

Instead we are now into full fling theological analysis of the meanings of the Qur'an in the British press media, where anyone and his dog come to profess on Islam and quotes from the holy book whatever suits the purpose.

This is a very sad time for us Muslims. Our relatives abroad are being slaughtered by, should I say "Christian" fanatics and their armies, our lands are occupied and being ruined. Our hopes of building normal lives, whether in the West or in the East are being shattered.

It seems to me that there is a long term under-current of trying to destroy our children belief in the faith of Islam, through
a) the destruction of our lands.
b) the constant humiliation of defeat, be it militarily, economics or argumentative.
c) the constant presentation of our religion as one of hate, violence, hatred, backwardness, suicide etc.
and right now, this strategy is becoming quite successful. Before long, we might even get our own muslim "representative" offering to have every Muslim of the land to where an identification badge and spy on each other.

Yes, we have a few, so very few, rotten apples. But those are constantly being paraded in front of the British media who relish in giving them interview and a plateform to express their stupidity and ignorance.

Its all a bloody propaganda, just thing of where this is meant to lead to. Awful contemplation.

3:37 pm  
Blogger irishdrifter said...

Oh, tried to post earlier but it was locked.
I totally agree with your assessment Fintan.

My BS meter flew off the wall!!

Its not Xymphora but it's a start and you are welcome.

irishdrifter.blogspot.com

5:33 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

By the way I published your article (this one) here: GLARING FLAW IN LONDON SUICIDE BOMBS TALE.

What is the problem, why have you deleted this twice now? Are you trying to hide the following information from your readers?!?!?

HIGH RESOLUTION VIDEOS OF THE 9/11 HOAX (AND MUCH MORE).

Here you will find hi-resolution video of the (obvious) demolition of World Trade Center Seven and of the (less obvious) demolition of the Towers. The Naudet brothers stunning footage of the first plane hitting the North tower is also presented (at least one of the brothers quite clearly knew the first aircraft was about to hit the North Tower) together with less well known footage of the first plane hitting the tower, accidently caught by someone filming, while waiting in traffic.

If you are using Windows Media Player you need the DivX3.11a codec plug-in (many non-Microsoft movie players come standard with the codecs necessary to play DivX movies (eg Mplayer for Linux)).

If you do not already have it, you can find it here:

http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/divx/windows/divx_3.11alpha.zip

The files from public.planetmirror.com are bit for bit the same (I checked) as those I have had on my system for years (with no harmful effects). You unzip the files and double click on Register_DivX.exe

If you wish to learn about DivX movies, in particular, why they sometimes play upside-down, read this thread:

http://globalresearch.ca.myforums.net/viewtopic.php?t=599

HIGH RESOLUTION VIDEO

Here HiRes (high resolution) video means video recorded with the DivX3.11a codec with the (variable) bitrate set to 6000 and crispness/smoothness set to 100. The HiRes videos are much larger files than necessary for good viewing. They are meant to convey as much of the original detail as possible.

THE FIRST PLANE STRIKE ON THE NORTH TOWER

The First Plane Hitting The North Tower (13 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x408) Copy.
Video taken while waiting to enter the Brooklyn Tunnel (0.8 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 360x240).

THE SECOND PLANE STRIKE ON THE SOUTH TOWER

Plane Hitting South Tower. View from south (10 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472) Copy.
View from north-east (4.9 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 716x480) Copy.
View from north (13 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472) Copy.
View from east (1.2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x356) Copy.
Close view from east (1.3 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x356) Includes the "911 In Plane Site" flash. Copy.
Another view from north (0.8 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x356) Copy.
Short view from north-east (1.2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 696x472) Copy.
Longer view from north-east (2.8 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 716x480) Copy.

NORTH TOWER DEMOLITION

Video one of the WTC North Tower demolition (2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 492x408) Copy.
Video two of the WTC North Tower demolition (5.6 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 716x480).
Video three of the WTC North Tower demolition (0.5 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 676x408).
Video four of the WTC North Tower demolition (13 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472) Copy.
Premature Detonations in North Tower Demolition. (4.8 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472).
North Tower Premature Detonations (Marked) (2.8 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x472) Copy..
More North Tower Premature Detonations (6.1 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 696x472) Copy.
Another view of the North Tower Predetonations (1.4 MB HiRes Codec: MPEG1 352x264).

For those interested, here is an article on the Premature Detonations.

SOUTH TOWER DEMOLITION

Video one of the WTC South Tower demolition (1.6 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 716x480).
Video two of the WTC South Tower demolition (2.3 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x408).
Video three of the WTC South Tower demolition (1.5 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x352).
Video four of the WTC South Tower demolition (1.7 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x356).
South Tower Premature Detonations (Marked) (0.4 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 704x480).

WORLD TRADE CENTER BUILDING SEVEN DEMOLITION

The WTC Building Seven Demolition (0.9 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x408) Copy.
The WTC Building Seven Demolition (another view) (0.8 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x408) Copy.
The WTC Building Seven Demolition (yet another view) (9.5 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x408) Copy.
The WTC Building Seven Demolition - Four (0.8 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 360x240)
The WTC Building Seven Demolition - Five (1.1 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 542x407)

PENTAGON

Pentagon Collapse One (2.2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 696x472) Copy.
Pentagon Collapse Two (0.8 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 696x472) Copy.
Video one of the Pentagon on Fire (4.2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x480).
Video two of the Pentagon on Fire (3.5 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x464).
Video three of the Pentagon on Fire (1.4 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x464).
Video of the Pentagon damage from the air (9.6 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x480).

WHAT A DEMOLITION LOOKS LIKE

What A Demolition Looks Like (6 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 600x320).

WOMAN WAVING FROM WTC NORTH TOWER IMPACT HOLE.

Woman Waving From WTC North Tower Impact Hole. (1.2 MB HiRes Codec: DivX3.11a 692x356) Copy.

The woman is in the lower righthand corner and why this is of interest.

OTHER VIDEO

Painful Deceptions by Eric Hufschmid (windows media player comes with the necessary codec to play these).

Painful Deceptions. Part 1 (39 MB Codec: WMV1 360x240)
Painful Deceptions. Part 2 (42 MB Codec: WMV1 360x240)
Painful Deceptions. Part 3 (35 MB Codec: WMV1 360x240)
Painful Deceptions. Part 4 (28 MB Codec: WMV1 360x240)
Painful Deceptions - Pentagon Update (5 MB WMV1 360x240)

Alternate Painful Deceptions (only the correct stuff about WTC7 (no missile crap))

Painful Deceptions (22 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 360x235). The section on World Trade Center Seven.

WTC Construction Manager (0.8 MB WMV3 320x240) states WTC would survive multiple airplane strikes.
911 In Plane Site Debunked (25 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 360x240)
911 In Plane Site. (104 MB Codec: DivX5 352x240)
911 In Plane Site. (129 MB Codec: Quicktime MOV 352x240)
Von Kleist admitting possible involvement and even guilt, in the events of 9/11 (1.3 MB Codec: DivX3.11a 340x240).

From the page http://www.question911.com/links.php you can download:

All the "Painful Deceptions" videos mentioned above
Painful Deceptions - 911 Commission Report (25 MB WMV1 360x240)
Painful Deceptions - Pentagon Update (5 MB WMV1 360x240) same as above but misnamed "Uranium Report"
911 In Plane Site Directors Cut. 2 parts (45 MB and 47 MB WMV3 320x240)
911 In Plane Site Update (8 MB WMV1 240x160)

David Griffin talking about 9/11 on CSPAN2 239 MB WMV, also smaller file here 25 MB WMV

MORE 9/11 RESOURCES (ANIMATIONS, BOOKS ETC).

BOOKS:

The New Pearl Harbor by David Ray Griffin (entire book).

ANIMATED GRAPHICS:

Predetonations in the World Trade Center Demolitions Copy 1 and commentary.
North Tower Demolition 0.9 MB Copy 1 and commentary.
South Tower Demolition 2.1 MB Copy 1 and commentary.
First Plane Hits 2.2 MB Copy 1. From Naudet Brothers footage and why this is of interest.
What a jets exhaust does to a car 0.9 MB Copy 1 and why this is of interest.
World Trade Center Seven Demolition 0.6 MB Copy 1.
The dust cloud that gave rise to the WTC6 explosion myth 0.9 MB Copy 1 and why this is of interest.

SOME ARTICLES FROM THE GLOBAL RESEARCH FORUM:

http://globalresearch.ca.myforums.net/viewforum.php?f=2

THE 9/11 "MISSILE HITS THE PENTAGON" HOAX.
MANY HI-RESOLUTION VIDEOS OF THE 9/11 HOAX (AND MORE).
WTC TOWERS - PREDETONATIONS OF EXPLOSIVES CAUGHT ON VIDEO.
THE WORLD TRADE CENTER FIRES (NOT SO HOT EH?).
PROOF THE TWIN TOWERS WERE DELIBERATELY DEMOLISHED.
SO WHAT REALLY HAPPENED (TO THE HIJACKED FLIGHTS) ON 9/11?
THE SUPER-LUCKY PENTAGON RETROFIT (A 9/11 SMOKING GUN).
MEDIA RELEASES FAKED PHOTOGRAPHS OF 9-11 PENTAGON EXPLOSION.
THE 9-11 PENTAGON HOAX (WHY A BOEING 757 DID NOT HIT THE PENTAGON).
SO WHAT DID HIT THE PENTAGON? (PROBABLY AN AA BOEING 737)
THE GOVERNMENT FEMA REPORT. ITS AUTHORS DELIBERATELY LIED!!
DID JEWS FRAME THE ARABS FOR 9/11? DID JEWS DO 9/11?
ARREST FOR JEWS CLAIMING GAS CHAMBERS TRUE (BY US MILITARY).
SOME ARTICLES ON THE TRUTH OF THE HOLOCAUST (BONUS VIDEO).
THE HILARIOUS AUSCHWITZ STORY.
MANY OF THE SUPPOSED 9-11 HIJACKERS ARE STILL ALIVE.
EVIDENCE OF EXPLOSIVES IN THE WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSES.
THE MOST OUTRAGEOUS CONSPIRACY THEORY OF THEM ALL.
COMMENTS ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER DEMOLITION.
THE GOVERNMENT FEMA "INVESTIGATIONS" - TWIN TOWERS - PART 1
THE GOVERNMENT FEMA "INVESTIGATIONS" - TWIN TOWERS - PART 2
THE GOVERNMENT FEMA "INVESTIGATIONS" - WTC SEVEN
CALCULATIONS SAY 14 TONS OF EXPLOSIVE USED TO DOWN EACH WTC TOWER
SHOCK, HORROR, ALLIANZ AG INSURANCE TO INVESTIGATE WTC FIRES?
Versicherungsgesellschaft Allianz AG zum Nachforschen der WTC-Feuer?
WATCH THE WTC EXPLOSIONS HERE. WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED?
YET ANOTHER 9/11 SMOKING GUN (NO AUTOS BLOWN OFF FREEWAY)?
WOMAN WAVING FROM WTC NORTH TOWER IMPACT HOLE (VIDEO).
THE FAKE EXPLOSION AT WORLD TRADE CENTER SIX.
FACTS ABOUT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER TOWERS.
THE RAG "POPULAR MECHANICS" LOSES ALL CREDIBILITY.
Plaguepuppy, Paul Thompson, Ewing2001. ALL FALSE OPPOSITION?
http://letsroll911.org = FALSE OPPOSITION IN PLAIN SIGHT.
IS ERIC HUFSCHMID A CLEVER PROPAGANDA AGENT?
"911 IN PLANE SITE." A TOTALLY BOGUS PRODUCTION.
Joël van der Reijden = MORE FALSE OPPOSITION.
THE PENTA-LAWN 2000 HOAX.
9/11 PREDICTED IN 1961?

9/11 WEB-SITES

These are deliberately suppressed, so I specially mention them.

http://guardian.150m.com (has smaller images for faster downloads)
http://guardian.250free.com (has smaller images for faster downloads)
http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/
http://911review.org/Wget/www.nerdcities.com/guardian/
http://thewebfairy.com/nerdcities/

THE COMPLETE GOVERNMENT FEMA REPORT INTO THE WORLD TRADE CENTER COLLAPSES.

Introduction - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
WTC 1 and WTC 2 - The Twin Towers - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
WTC 3 - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
WTC 4,5 and 6 - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
WTC 7 - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
The Bankers Trust Building - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
Peripheral Buildings - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
Overview of Fire Protection in Buildings - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
Structural Steel and Steel Connections - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.
WTC Steel Data Collection - The FEMA "investigations" Copy 1.

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10:00 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A large number of your posts are dead, discontinued, bogus and whatever. Go try posting this endless flood on the AJ and JB sites (without offering a BJ) ... good luck and you are soon to be gone again ....

See Ya ...

10:40 pm  
Blogger Fintan, BreakForNews.com said...

Hey (globalresearch!) anon,

OMG - why didn't you say it was you! : ) Chill dude.

We like to keep the comments readable, and it's hectic here... we see this pile of links posted... can't read 'em well..

So we copy it, zap it and offer to post it later as a full blog post...

I just copied the html to a regular webpage. Great links.

In a post comment, the short line length makes it confusing. We will post it as a webpage. Stay tuned.....

10:50 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We like to keep the comments readable, and it's hectic here... we see this pile of links posted... can't read 'em well..

Yeah, yeah, sure sure,... you false opposition characters are quite funny.

As long as you Jews are not blamed for 9/11 (which of course your buddies did) you feel safe eh?

And of course all the Jewish Masons involved made the Masons complicit as well,... not all of them are happy about that.

I really don't care what you do about the links,... your pathetic reasons for removing them show you for what you are,... but hey,... nice article on the London bombings.

11:55 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh yeah, I mentioned your article at http://www.washingtonmonthly.com if you want to have a look.

12:06 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A large number of your posts are dead, discontinued, bogus and whatever.

So tell me which ones are dead, discontinued, or whatever.

12:16 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The New Pearl Harbor by David Ray Griffin (entire book). (dead)

IS ERIC HUFSCHMID A CLEVER PROPAGANDA AGENT? (whatever)

I think you should be checking the validity of the links.

12:23 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Anonymous 11:55 PM - "As long as you Jews are not blamed for 9/11 (which of course your buddies did) you feel safe eh?"

KARL is that youuuuu?? Jeepers why didn't u say?? - Is Fitzer busting yer balls about Plame or is that just another cute op of yours?? I'm thinking that maybe things might not be as bad as they seem - if u do get hung out to dry for leaking info you mite get a cell with Judith - then she can squeeze 'em - better than gettin 'em busted but then again u never know how tight a squeeze Judith has - or maybe u do - ehmmm was it her u were with the nite I called and u were breathing heavy on the phone? 'Fess up now Karl - what did she do to get u talking?

Your Friend
AnyMouse

12:56 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The New Pearl Harbor by David Ray Griffin (entire book) is dead.

It seems the entire http://vancouver.indymedia.org/ site is down, hence the link to Griffin's book is also down.

IS ERIC HUFSCHMID A CLEVER PROPAGANDA AGENT? This one was removed by a systems operator at globalresearch.ca.myforums.net.

It will be rewritten before it is reposted.

If you desperately want "The New Pearl Harbor" I can post it for you.

2:09 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan -- they deleted your article at www.washingtonmonthly.com -- I guess they didn't like it.

I have reposted it -- gee,.... www.washingtonmonthly.com reminds me a bit of here, I wonder why?

2:52 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan -- they deleted your article at www.washingtonmonthly.com -- I guess they didn't like it.

I have reposted it -- gee,.... www.washingtonmonthly.com reminds me a bit of here, I wonder why?

3:00 am  
Anonymous Judith said...

Looks like we have an echo on the comments section - or maybe it's because I squez Karl's balls too hard ;-) Must 'ave made him hit the "publish" button twice.

3:38 am  
Anonymous hmmm said...


>> But, suicide is also the last option.
>>
>> Suicide missions are only ever used where
>> there is no other military alternative.
>> Perpetrators are dedicated, fanatical and
>> ruthless.


So why, then, do more than a few Palestinian suicide bombers wander into defenseless pizzerias, discos, markets, and city buses....while Palestinian kids throw ROCKS at Israeli tanks? Shouldn't the rocks be thrown at the pizzerias and buses, while the suicide bombs and Kassam rockets be saved for the tanks?


>>
>> But they are not stupid.
>>


Stone the tanks, but bomb the city buses....seems to be a VERY stupid military strategy, not to mention terrible P.R. (if you're seriously looking for worldwide sympathy to your cause, that is).

11:19 pm  
Anonymous Daphne O'Brien said...

Fintan, you said:

"If you are an Iraqi determined to kill lots of fellow Iraqis at an enlistment center for the U.S-led Iraqi forces, you are probably going to have to give your life. The people in the center are not going to let you walk in, drop a big parcel and walk out again. Suicide is the only option."

I agree with much of what you say, but I have read from several reliable sources that the "suicide bombs" are PLANTED when the Iraqis stop at identity checkposts by a soldier. The question in my opinion is, is this soldier a regular US soldier, a Mossad fill-in, or a mercenary soldier?

I think you should check Iraqi bogs (and other information) to see what you come up with here.

However, I do agree that saying the London bombers were Muslim "suicide bombers" is not only incorrect, but setting them up for more persecution.

1:54 am  
Blogger irishdrifter said...

Fake CCTV Footage Released.

Link

8:32 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Suicide bombers as demonstrated by the palestinians take steps to ensure that the reason for them giving up their lives is recognised afer the event. This could be in the form of video recordings, letters, or voice recording. Yet the bombers in London have not. I do not think that one would give up a life without making sure that the world knows why.

Secondly I think that the British government should take responsibility of these bombings instead of callig them Islamic Extremists they should be branded as British Terrorists. Afterall they were British Subjects brought up and educated by a system that has obviously failed them.

1:19 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whats to say that someone else didn't plant the bombs in their rucksacks and detonate them...

The question would be the different ways they went..could only think of them playing some kind of game...like Mornington Crescent.

1:09 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they take some kind of drug first?

1:10 pm  
Anonymous magic trick said...

its time to stop what about this and that etc....its today...lets look at suicide bombers in Iraq(general pattern)-US pulls X over, detains X looks at papers whatever, this only has to take a half hour, says ok u can go, pls see mr Y at so and so cop shop to have your documents finalized-oh and hurry Mr Z is almost done his shift there-X hurries. Not realizing he is now driving a micro nuke or some other mil spec whamo device into the cop shop "BOOM" Ariel "the bloated one" hits electronic trigger X and all are gone

Targeted Assasinations-Jewish Mistaravim Praetorian Guardsmen do it or get some sucker to paint the target. Paint? Yes with InfaRed paint on the roof. Apache (conveniently supplied by US) has simple firing solution. Hezbollah think ultrviolet now IR is easy to spot and they know it! Keep it up u will win-evil may win but never conquers!

Madrid bombs are a carbon copy of London-Madrid all trains are A.M. first arrivals-sitting in maintenance all night- 10 bombs attached to under carriage. Who attached these bombs? El Queda? no no why Richared Clarke (highest MOSSAD mole in US house of wax) made up that term, it was never ever quoted before '98-did I spell it right Richard? Much more sophisticated probably Novus Ordo Seclorum (soon to be pushed into the primordial slime/sea with the other Zionists after the US defeat in Iraq by 200 million Muslims- and rightly so)who then fled to a crowded spanish neighborhood that needed to be evacuated (giving escpae time)then a shaped charge to imply they commited suicide in their rented apartment...hahahaha I wonder if Ariel laughs like that as he sodomizes "W" and all.

Examine:
1). Dec. 26th 2005 Tsunami and science of seismic events

2). SUNBURN missiles and how they will tear apart retreating US fleet (after US retreat and defeat at the hands of skilled warriors in Iraq) in Persian Gulf (even Rumsfeld said no nuclear powered ships from US there because he knows they are gonna get hit-can't spoil the oil can we Rumsfeld u butchering Nazi!!)

3. Alliance between Russia, Brazil, India (reason for Tsunami oh and they killed 300,00 Muslims too!), and China is the only group keeping us safe from Zionists and one cell (George Bush)

4). attack on bali-micro nuke(hydrogen bomb catalyst/trigger/no neutron sheild) and science (see any bomb pics with crater to underground sewer) maybe a sewer near u!!

5).http://geocities.com/operationshekhinah/one.html

6).http://vialls.net/myahudi/fortress1.html

7).http://vialls.net/subliminalsuggestion/fallujah.html

that's enough!! Im gonna be sick!



We need to unite and bring these scum bags to the gallows for all to see...it will be done...I will be back! I miss J Vialls but there are others like him....I know because I am one...and a fearless Canadian

9:57 pm  
Blogger Smitty said...

The suicide bomber scenarios presented,often don't make sense. According to the corporate media Israelis are always being attacked by Palestinian suicide bombers. While evidence seems to support this in some cases, other times it's seems to be just taken at the word of whatever "official" gives the microphone a second. And then it echoes, without question, around the rest of the corporate media.
Racist ideas nurtured in the general population through pop culture, set us up to believe the most silly things about "other" people who might seek to destroy "our way of life". If not for the racism, I don't think so many would be predisposed to believing these suicide bombers that strike in markets and other anonymous public places.
Logic must dictate that while perhaps being fanatical one might have the desire to stay alive. Yes?

No.

Not "these" people. That is the racism at work that causes us to temporarily suspend logical faculties and believe the most unbelievable tales of people that suicide themselves even when they must...hey, and even when they need not.

We've gotta stop believing bullshit. Unfortunately, if you're here reading these comments you're probably not as prone to believing BS anyways.

5:58 pm  

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