Sunday, July 17, 2005

French Terror Cop Leaked Bomb Plot Truth

Looks like the British are pretty peeved at this French anti-terrorism coordinator for revealing the true nature of the explosives used in the London bombings.

First they were military grade C4, now they're homemade TATP. The conflicting reports seem to be delibrate in order to cause confusion and throw the public off the scent. Here's the cover story for the British upset over that 'leaky' Frenchman:
French, British politics pervade bombing inquiry

In the wake of the July 7 terrorist attacks in London, Scotland Yard brought together law enforcement and intelligence officials from two dozen European countries and the United States, sharing crucial intelligence and pleading for help in tracking the bombers.

But the continentwide kumbaya was shattered when Christophe Chaboud, France's new anti-terrorism coordinator, broke the cardinal rule of the club: He leaked.

In an interview with Le Monde, Chaboud announced to the world that he knew "the nature of the explosives" used in the London bombings. It "appears to be military, which is very worrisome," he said, adding: "...How did they get them? Either by trafficking, for example, in the Balkans, or they had someone on the inside who enabled them to get them out of a military base."
First it was military-grade C4.......
London explosives have military origin

LONDON, July 13 (UPI) -- Scotland Yard has asked for European cooperation in finding how last week's London subway and bus bombers obtained military plastic explosives.

Traces of the explosive known as C4 were found at all four blast sites, and The Times of London said Scotland Yard considers it vital to determine if they were part of a terrorist stockpile. C4 is manufactured mostly in the United States, and is more deadly and efficient than commercial varieties. It is easy to hide, stable, and is often missed by traditional bomb-sniffing detection systems, the newspaper said.

Forensic scientists told the newspaper the construction of the four devices detonated in London was very technically advanced, and unlike any instructions that can be found on the Internet.

London bombers used 'military' explosives

LONDON, July 12 (UPI) -- High-grade military explosives appear to have been used in the London bombings last Thursday, a senior French counter-terrorism officer has said.

"The nature of the explosives appears to be military, which is very worrying," said Superintendent Christophe Chaboud, the chief of the French anti-terrorist police, who was in London to assist Scotland Yard with the investigation.

British intelligence officials have asked their European counterparts to check military stockpiles and commercial sites to determine is explosives are missing, European-based intelligence officials told the New York Times.

But one official said the only "concrete evidence" was that the explosives were not homemade. "We don't know if they are civil industrial or military industrial explosives."
Now they are homemade explosives, after all....
British Police Say Bombs Were Homemade

Police sources say new evidence leads them to believe the London bombs were made from acetone peroxide, and not military-style explosives as first thought. Police say traces of acetone peroxide have been found at one of the four bomb sites and at the home of one of the four suspected suicide bombers in the northern city of Leeds.

Home-made explosives: the facts

Acetone peroxide - TATP, or Mother of Satan as it is known, due to its devastating effects - is the home-made explosive that police believe was used by the London bombers. Anyone with a basic knowledge of chemistry can make it.

However, it is highly unstable, being sensitive to heat, friction and shock - even professionals have been injured while using it. What remains unclear is whether the white crystals were "plasticised'' a process which turns the material into something more resembling plastic explosive, and therefore less volatile. This may have been to ensure the bombs did not detonate early and could explain initial reports that the explosives were "military style".

There is a precedent for the use of TATP in Islamic terrorism. In 2001 the British-born ''shoe bomber'' Richard Reid, tried to blow up an airline with plasticised TATP.
Some more cover-up, and to confuse the issue.......
A Black Market for Bomb Materials Is Said to Flourish in Europe

But because TATP is so unstable, explosives experts not involved in the investigation say, it is likely that the London bombers used a combination of homemade and commercial explosives.

Security experts say it is not surprising that the authorities in London have given conflicting descriptions of the sort of bomb materials the attackers used. Even a basic explosive like TATP leaves virtually no trace, and "it is very difficult to analyze plastic explosive residue," said Jack McGeorge, who was a bomb disposal specialist with the Marine Corps and is now president of a consultancy called the Public Safety Group.
See Also: Police Get Coy About London Bomb Explosives


Anonymous Anonymous said...

'Police say traces of acetone peroxide have been found at one of the four bomb sites and at the home of one of the four suspected suicide bombers in the northern city of Leeds.'

Well, that would be be because the military put them there. Remember how they used explosives to gain access to the premises?

7:34 am  
Blogger ziz said...

Now let me see. We have this military explosive and we will mix it with this highly unstable home made stuff.

Yes. That seems like a good idea to me.

Forensics with on site portable spectrophotometers especially calibrated for explosives will identify bomb materials and products in minutes.

RDX is egg mayonnaise to Dundee cake mix Acetone peroxide.

Acetone is available OTC - it's called nail varnish remover, usually lightly tinted to see where you brush,odorised,with lubricant like glycerine.

That will be 6,000 10ml bottles of nail varnish remover then please. I'll pay cash I'm a terrorist .

goto for the full story of the mules and how they were duped.

8:08 am  
Blogger Stef said...

@postmansknock: actually terrorists do mix military explosive with TATP when they can get it. TATP is so unstable they try and make it more stable by bulking it out with factory produced stuff

re. the postmanpat scenario - there's absolutely no evidence at all that these guys thought they were drug mules. To me it does indeed look like they were duped but replacing one bullsh*t explanation with another bullsh*t explanation is a massive mistake.

Those who doubt the official explanation are currently under no obligation to formulate alternate explanations and would be well-advised not to do so. They could end up following a theory that is, innocently or deliberateky, plain wrong. Don't be a lemming.

What we all have to do at the moment is identify the flaws in what we are being told. If there are flaws our response should be 'That's not good enough and here's why. Do your job or face the consquences', not sitting at our keyboards making up competing fairy stories

5:48 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget now the latest is the bomb was made from perfume.

'Terror plot to use perfume in bomb'

6:00 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think its very important we look at the information we are recieving

here is some food for thought:

Benjamin Netayahu ( Mossad ) new about bombings and warned Mi6 of danger days before bombing.he was in london on the 7/7

2 hours after explosions Mr Blair confirms hallmarks of al qaida apparently there was no intelligence on this event?

No public enquiry ??? why ?

we all remember poor Dr kelly and the subsequent Hutton whitewash!!!
Blair wouldn,t want another inquiry.

Al qaida is the bastard child of the CIA & MI6. ASK Russia they'll tell you.

Its seems too convenient to take in whats being said who BENIFITS from this ??? U.K ? USA? or the London underground ? (Could do with a splash of paint ready for the 2012 OLYMPICS) What is very clear is no muslims will thats for sure.

i believe this will eventually backfire as the British public won,t be dupped !!!!!!

Hey but atleast Tony's got his shiny I.D cards!!!!

We must remember that their are alot of injustices in the world if young Britsh muslims are becoming dis infranchised with its governments policies abroad then we as a society need to look deep inside ourselves ... yes we the great British public we are not like the americans we will debate.

Unfortunately this seems to be the pretext for war (smoking gun) with Iran and Syria and resolve for desperate soldiers in Afghanistan and Iraq , they need to remind themselves when they loose comrads why they are dying in foreign lands persuing DARK INTERESTS.

If we look back in history when significant events take place they are usually done through confusion and fear controlled by an elite few .

i ask you to remember where al qaida originated from and who will benefit from these terrible events .

Just think of 911 there are poor Americans who should have perished with the twin towers but because of fate they are alive they cannot rest untill the truth reaches everyone , one survivor of 911 was asked why he had spent 60 k of his intended house investment on trying to get ot the truth he simply explained " i lost over 200 friends on 911 i owe it to them"

2:05 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The British Government has previously used terrorist bombings for which no organisation claimed responsibility in order to enact anti terrorist legislation which curtails free speach and diminishes civil liberties. This was the case with the Guildford and Birmingham bombings in the 1970's which were attended by show trials of innocent suspects who had there convictions overturned years later.

These bombings were highly advantageous to the Blair and Bush administrations and came at the precise moment that Bush was under pressure to relent on his outrageously pro- pollution stance within the G8.

The bombings have been used by the press to promote and justify the illegal occupation of Iraq and to distract from the very serious issue of climate change. After 5 years of Bush's almost complete ban on any kind of pollution controls the weather in America has gone ballistic, particularly in the Bush Dynasty states of Florida and Texas.

If the Bush family are to maintain power it is important to distract the public from these very obvious facts by creating false threats and someone to scapegoat.

2:37 pm  
Blogger irishdrifter said...

Where is the UN when you need them?

Safely tucked up in their Manhattan penthouses with 5000 dollar a night whores.

We demand action is taken against the USA+Brith'ain and the Zionist Entity.

We demand Nuremberg be re-instated.
We demand Bush and Blair and Sharon are given a swift trial and hung from their respective capitals highest lamp-post.

6:50 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

jesus, you conspiracy nuts need to go out there, and get a life (and therefore some money and influence). THEN see what you can do about finding the truth with your newfound resources! sitting at your keyboards screaming "lies! kill the greedy politicians that created these 'terrorist' attacks!" isnt going to help anyone, especially if there really IS a conspiracy at work...

6:03 pm  

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