Wednesday, July 20, 2005

Police Get Coy About London Bomb Explosives

British police seem to be experiencing a very unusual -and hard to fathom- delay in identifying the type of explosive used in the London bombs.
"Forensic experts are scrutinising the four blast sites to determine the exact make-up of the substance... Early reports suggested the bombers had used a military plastic explosive during the attacks on the capital's transport network.

"It was later claimed that police had found acetone peroxide - or TATP - in a bath during a raid on a property in Leeds.... However, the source said police were still carrying out tests to establish its exact make-up."
[Source]
Perhaps the coyness is because the truth would poke a hole in the official line about homemade bombs. A line at variance with early accounts by some media sources.

So how hard is this identification process? Not very.

Within hours of the blasts, early examination of the scene by explosives experts would have already narrowed down type of explosive used. The blast velocity is the clearest indicator.

This can be determined from visual inspection of damage to metal panels and gross structures; also from close examination of the penetration power of explosive metal fragments. An experienced eye could quickly make an educated guess.

Simple chemical tests would narrrow the options still further. And mass spectrographic analysis could not only identify the explosive, but can even potentially tell how it was manufactured -by identifying contaminants in the explosives.

It is hard to imagine how it would take more than 24hrs. to be pretty certain, maybe 48hrs. to be definitive.

It's been just two weeks.

See Also: French Terror Cop Leaked Bomb Plot Truth

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fintan was worried that you have posted no new audio in over a week. Hope your well.

3:48 am  
Anonymous Worker Bee #99 said...

Sounds of silence may not be cause for pause. (No need to ask.)

It's Sumer time... Worker bees sumtimes need to fly & play with the birds.

4:44 am  
Anonymous Push Me Onto the Next Level said...

Maybe its hard to find time to record new audio when you're running around in the woods naked.

Say hi to Moloch for us Fintan!


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6:57 am  
Anonymous mondo said...

Don't mean to be a downer, but this report was pretty weak. You should've gave examples of the discrepancies. Such as the police using explosives on the house in Leeds(why didn't they just break the door down?), and the police using 4 sets of explosives on the TWO cars they found that they claimed had explosives in them. Why would they do this? Are the cops claiming they had to blow up the cars 4 times because they were boobie trapped? Then why don't they say that? And if so, 4 times? It looks to me like destroying the evidence.

Also, wasn't there early reports of some unexploded bombs?

12:11 pm  
Blogger irishdrifter said...

Not destroy evidence - plant it.

"Oh look, we found traces of explovises".

Well of course they did! They just blew the shit of someones house.

7:28 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to a witness statement published in Guardian, 2005-7-8, the flame of explosion looks yellow:

"The first thing I knew I saw silver travelling through the air, which was glass, and a yellow flash," said Michael Henning, 39, a City worker from Kensington. "Then I was getting twisted and thrown down on the ground. The blast just twisted and turned me. I was in the next carriage but within 10ft of where the bomb went off. I feel extremely lucky."

This cannot be acetone peroxide because explosion of acetone peroxide usually yields red or orange fireballs.

However, explosion of C4 can sent a yellowish flame.

7:32 pm  

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